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load didn't look like it would scale

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by rollin coal, Aug 8, 2011.

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  1. Aug 8, 2011 #1
    rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    I pull a dry van and have for many years. When I pick up a load of water, beer, or colas I know if I can axle out or not seeing what it looks like when i close the doors. I get a load of water last week and know at a glance it'll be too heavy on the drives and impossible to axle out. I tell the shipper and they said weigh it and bring the ticket back. 5 miles out and back wasted fuel and time to prove what I already knew. They reworked it and apologized profusely. I know if a load looks insecure and unsafe regulations will back you up for refusing to leave. My load was secure but it sure wouldn't axle out. Can I still refuse to leave until they rework it to my liking and be backed up by the regs? What is the regulation anyone know? I'm an o/o it sucks wasting fuel on customer stupidity.
     
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  3. Aug 8, 2011 #2
    largecarwilly

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    I guess you could refuse to leave but they could also refuse to reload you once the unload it. If its a load of evenly weighted product kids the as ling as the trailer.tandem are under the last pallet you should be fine but it sounds like you already know what your doing. I usually ask before being loaded what the weight is and how many pallet and tell them how I want it loaded so that its done the way I want it from the start.
     
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  4. Aug 8, 2011 #3
    Allow Me.

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    Yeah, if you tell them how to load it and it's over, too bad for you.
     
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  5. Aug 8, 2011 #4
    rollin coal

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    I didn't tell them how to load it beforehand. Typically shippers of bottled water, beer, etc know exactly how to load. Just so happened "the new guy" loaded mine.
     
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  7. Aug 8, 2011 #5
    walstib

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    You'd think these companies that are always loading heavy would have their loading down to a science, sadly, it's not the case...I think they believe many drivers will just take it and hope they get by...
     
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  8. Aug 8, 2011 #6
    Prairie Boy

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    Why not invest about $10. bucks per air guage for the tractor and trailer????

    At least for your tractor. If you know that you're legal on the drives then you should know bt the load weight that you're also OK on the trailer if it doesn't have a guage.
     
    Prairie Boy, Aug 8, 2011
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    Diesel Dave Thanks this.
  9. Aug 8, 2011 #7
    CondoCruiser

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    Companies like that you can't argue with. You just have to scale out and return just like you did. Their procedures have to be followed even if they are wrong.

    I had a load of juice last year where a new guy was looking at a picture chart while loading me. I knew there was problems from the get go. He had different pictures by pallet count. Problem was he was looking at the wrong picture, lol. He got mad, but I made him rearrange it. It's the drivers arse and the driver has the final say. They don't like it, tough. But back to the first sentence....
     
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  10. Aug 10, 2011 #8
    rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    This place doesn't allow drivers on the docks. I actually do have an air suspension gauge but it only gives me a rough idea. Maybe I just need to start paying closer attention to that gauge and get better at judging it. That would have saved me time, fuel plus a buddy of mine said he goes by the gauge refusing to leave and the shippers always cave..
     
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  11. Aug 14, 2011 #9
    rjmcgee

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    Sharpie marker is your friend, I have a very generic guage in my Columbia and when I had it loaded just perfect one time I put one line right over the needle, amazing how accurate that is at a quick glance.
     
    rjmcgee, Aug 14, 2011
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  12. Aug 14, 2011 #10
    Winchester Magnum

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    Next trailer you buy, consider a spread axle. I have an air suspension gauge on the drives- 61 psi is 34,000 and the trailer can't possibly be overloaded (40,000)

    With this setup, as long as I'm not overgrossed, I'm I know I'm good to go.

    A spread is very forgiving. I don't even scale 42,000 in the box.
     
    Winchester Magnum, Aug 14, 2011
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