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Not only is that not a fact, that is wrong. Using a .47 FSC the 500 miles trip would pay the truck $ 1382, the 975 miles trip $ 1462. Same miles driven, $80 more.

As far as some of the other comments on this thread, if $1.07 is the best load a driver can find, Landstar is not the place for him.

And Landstar does double broker loads. Just because Landstar calls their brokers agents, doesn't mean they are not brokers. If an agent books another broker's load, he is double brokering. Not really a problem if driver's are leaving that cheap crap on the dock. But we do have guys that will pull $1.07 loads.

 

I seem to recall reading something about Landstar no longer passing 100% of the fsc along to their BCO's. As I remember, it stated that Landstar now takes their cut from the entire rate, including the fsc.

 

That wouldn't surprise me at all..

 

Does anyone know if all Landstar agents are independents or are some of them employees?

 

They are all independent.

 

1. I said net income. You won't get the same fuel mileage, tire and engine wear, etc when fully loaded for that extra 475 loaded miles.
2. When I talk money, I talk money to the truck, not gross as that really has no meaning. Too many BCO's talk gross money to inflate their ego's. Before I came on here, I would have to specify to my friends if the money they were talking about was LS money(gross) or real money, meaning after LS cut. That is my one major complaint about Landstar.

If an agent books another broker's load, and then put's it on a LS BCO truck that is NOT double brokering! In that case the agent is representative for LS,and is not using broker authority.

If that agent puts it on an outside carrier instead of a LS truck, THAT would be double brokering.

 

Please cite this. I know you can't. You do no favors spreading drivel and false information to folks that are looking for a new carrier. You get 100% of fuel surcharge. If a load doesn't have a fuel surcharge, the agent will back it out of the flat rate.

 

I am not spreading anything. I don't have an axe to grind with Landstar. I read it somewhere about a year ago, I believe. It may have been in Landline. I don't recall. I never said that Landstar didn't have a fsc. What was reported and what I said was that Landstar decided to take their cut of the entire rate, including the fsc. Previously, they would pass 100% of the fsc along to their BCO's. According to the article, Landsar was suppose to keep their cut of the fsc, too. Since I don't currently lease to them, I have no way of verifying the information. But, as I recall the article was supposed to have quoted a Landstar executive. Some of you put so much emphasis on the fsc. Whether you break it out or not, it is all part of the rate. I don't worry about getting a fsc. I look at the rate. If it meets my target rate then I take the load. The fsc can help, but it is basically just smoking mirrors. You can take out the fsc and then add it to your part or you can just raise the rate and you are still making the same money. All the fsc does is give the illusion to the shipper that he is paying a cheaper rate and give the illusion to the truck that they are making more money than they really are. Just raise the rate and don't worry about all the extra math.

 

I've been with LS for just about a year now. Drive team with my wife who has been at LS for 3 years. I agree with you glock. Most of those who leave LS, except the ones going to do their own thing, have NOT really put an effort into it. we came across one sitting at TA in Fontana, CA saying he was gonna leave cause he could not get loads out of CA. After chatting with him we found out that he had bout a new truck, 2895/mo. But he had no clue how to do a lane match. He was astounded when we told him about how many agents call us for loads out of CA that we turn down. He just sat there stunned. The loads we pull go from Walnut to new york, then jersey to fontana. We are not concerned by tolls and the 175 miles deadhead since the loads average 2.19 a mile. The way I told him was either he had to WORK to create his business or that he should go back to work for swift. BTW the loads we pull are never on the board. So when I hear folks cry baby about not making it at LS I just have to laugh

 

I can't believe that guy started out with a $2,895 truck payment. Did that also include a trailer? People start at Landstar and don't understand how to be proactive in learning and working their system. I can see how it would be difficult to make the change from a carrier who has dispatchers to one that doesn't. I remember Landstar used to say that it takes about 5-6 months to learn their system. Some owner operators don't give themselves enough time to learn their system. I remember reading a post from one of them who said he was had been with Landstar for about a month and wasn't making any money. He didn't give it enough time and I don't think that he had ever been involved with a company such as Landstar. Actually, Landstar is a unique carrier that some have attempted to mimic. I don't think the owner operator you met did his research. As I recall, I started making money with Landstar from the beginning, but I had a number of years experience before leasing to them and had run my own authority.