Riddle me this re: Maximum Miles

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Hopfrog, Jul 30, 2007.

  1. Hopfrog

    Hopfrog Light Load Member

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    OK was wondering what is the maximum number of legal miles that a trucker can rack up in a 2 week period. Assuming that you are starting from a clean clock, don't fudge the log, don't have delays at shippers/receivers, and always go the speed limit. Lets also assume the speed limit is the same wherever you are going, say 65 mph (or different, if there is a different maximum for truckers that I am unaware of).

    What is the maximum amount of miles you could rack up in a two week period:

    A) Under current HOS

    B) Under the proposed HOS Changes in September: http://www.landlinemag.com/Special_Reports/2007/Jul07/072407_Court_tosses.htm
     
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  3. Brickman

    Brickman Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Current HOS.....

    Assuming you drive 65 hrs a week leaving 5 hrs left for you in your 70 for fueling, pretripping, loading, unloading. Which is not enough realistically, but assuming it is.

    You'll have to log 5 mph below the speed limit to satify the DOT and any audits your logs might get. That means 3900 miles a week, 7800 in two weeks.

    A better way to figure it would be 120,000 to 130,000 miles a yr then divide that by weeks in a yr. This takes into account for things like break downs, shipper/receiver delays, bad weather, and home time. If you really really busted it and had 0 life out side of your truck you could see 145,000 a yr.
     
  4. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    These companies that tell you to "log" 5 miles under the posted speed limit is really telling you to falsify your logs. Why don't they let you go the speed limit of the state you are in? I mean DOT does? I didn't have one problem with that area in my DOT audit a month ago!

    I used to tell drivers just that as well, but that was only so your total miles would match to the driving hours for the day. However I was telling you to falsify your logs back then (yeap, didn't know I was though:biggrin_25521:).

    You should do it as such:

    You can legally go the posted speed limit for trucks and log it as such (however if your company trucks are goverened this is well known and you should never "log" over that speed limit) and this is not a problem with DOT.


    Now lets say your companys sets their computer for total miles @ 65, well any total miles for the day that averages over 65 will show up as a speeding violation, that's why they want you to log 5 miles under (r they saying if you are going 68 I want you to log 5 under? that's telling u once again to falsify your logs). If they want you to drive 5 miles under the speed limit they are losing money and so are you! What they could do when it shows speeding is look at the state you are in/versus the speed limit and tell you oh that log is fine, don't worry about it!

    Tell your log auditors to call me, I will set them straight:biggrin_25521:
    Just kidding:biggrin_25513:

    You must follow your company policy though, please don't log it as I told you cause I don't want to be blammed for your corrective action later on! Unless of course your company follows the same policy as mine!

    The biggest thing is making sure you have enough time from point A to point B. Don't log paid miles, log actual miles driven!

    I was rushing on my way out the door to work so no time to proof read so hopefully I made sense:biggrin_2556:
     
  5. Brickman

    Brickman Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    The DOT goober in the office that comes out for an audit is not the DOT goober at the side of the road hassling me over logging the speed limit. And telling me if he really wanted to he could punch in the miles and drive time in his computer and give me a falsified log ticket because starting a truck from a dead stop, traffic, hills, and then stopping a big truck does NOT allow you to log speed limit. 5 under with the miles averaged out and I've NEVER had any problems ever.

    There was one company I heard their drivers talking about where their trucks would run 70 but if they turned in a log sheet with any thing over 63 MPH average they would be in big trouble. That is really odd company policy.
     
  6. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    Yeah it's hard to average the exact speed limit, but then again there is times you probably can (I don't know for sure) but at night you are on a road with little traffic set your cruise and be on the way.

    HIm entering the city/state is called a point to point (log language). I agree to some extent with the "officers" however they can't prove (now in Chicago etc they could) you didn't go the speed limit either! But do it as you do it and you should be fine! Him telling you to "log" it under 5 to me is teaching you wrong as they should be telling you to log it as it happened and don't speed??? That would work even better and easier to me! The answer might come out the same and it might make 15 extra miles on the log????

    Try it and see one trip someone?
     
  7. earthbrown

    earthbrown Medium Load Member

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    with a 65mph truck I actually once averaged 66mph going across nm and az....was a 20k load, so I ran it to 75 down hills and kept 60 uphill.


    I drove 730 miles in 11 hours.


    K
     
  8. Knucklehead

    Knucklehead Road Train Member

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    Raises the idea that the DOT doesn't want TRUE logs, but PURTY logs.
     
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