Wildcat hydrogen fuel injectionsystem

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by gerardo1961, Dec 6, 2010.

  1. realHHO

    realHHO Bobtail Member

    2
    0
    Aug 25, 2011
    0
    This device doesn't work and in most cases will decrease efficiency. You won't see an SAE test from them because it won't pass SAE. I read a statement saying that they are doing "SAE like" testing. Why not do the real thing?

    If you would like information on an SAE certified unit that shows over 20% increase in fuel savings, PM me and I will get it to you.
     
  2. Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  3. realHHO

    realHHO Bobtail Member

    2
    0
    Aug 25, 2011
    0
    This system doesn't work. Why not get a real SAE J1321 test instead of an emission testing using SAE standards?
     
  4. Displaced Yooper

    Displaced Yooper Light Load Member

    152
    49
    Oct 18, 2010
    Detroit, MI
    0
    A couple of concerns here...
    1. Cetane rating is what we want to raise in diesel fuel, not octane. Octane = Gasoline.
    2. Adding oxygen will not increase octane in gasoline, it will decrease it, and drastically.

    Adding pure oxygen to any fuel (gas, diesel, wood, dried camel crap, whatever...) will make it burn at a faster rate.

    Higher octane gas actually burns slower, giving it more combustion time, therefore creating more power when conditions are right.
    Cetane ratings in diesel fuel equate to the same thing, higher cetane rating = slower burning = longer combustion time = more power.

    If adding pure oxygen added power and raised octane, racers would have been adding O2 bottles to their cars years ago. The fact is, adding straight O2 will drastically lower the effective octane rating, making a gas engine knock and pre-ignition itself to death in short order.

    That's why Nitrous Oxide is used instead. N2O does add oxygen to the combustion process, and allow more fuel to be burned at the appropriate Oxygen/Fuel ratio, but it does not release the oxygen molecule from the nitrogen molecules until about 1400 degrees, well after the combustion process has already started. Meaning the fuel ignites as normal, and THEN the added oxygen allows more fuel to burn (enrichment fuel is ALWAYS added with Nitrous Oxide).

    This whole electrolysis method of obtaining the hydrogen & oxygen worries me as well. To get the kind of volume we would need to feed any significant amount of hydrogen into our engines at cruise RPM would require a crapload of electrical current, and that electricity has to be made in the first place. That means our electrical charging system would be taxed far higher than normal, and would create a bigger parasitic loss of power than normal. Nevermind the additional wear & tear on the alternator.

    I've played around (in my misspent youth) with electrolysis and making hydrogen & oxygen for making things go boom. Unless the water is pure, the electrodes will deteriorate over time, sometimes a very short time, and it took an awful long time to create enough Hydrogen to actually make anything go boom.

    In all, WAY too many variables for me to have any faith in this.
     
  • Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.