New Driver/"truckers kid"

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  1. LoneWolf902

    LoneWolf902 Bobtail Member

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    Hi Everyone, Figured this was as a good of a p[lace as any to say hello and introduce myself.
    Names James,
    My Father was a Truck driver for 25+ years and was an O/O for the last 8 of those years. I always traveled with him on holiday breaks and summer vacations when i was in school (Assuming mother wasn't asking for her Visitation"). I always loved seeing the sights roll by and always told the "old man" that i wanted to be "Just like him". Which he quickly responded to me "no you don't, Trucking is going downhill and i don't want you to have to deal with all the B.S. that is coming down the line. Pick something worthwhile. EARN a living, Don't WORK for a living." Well Low and Behold i decided about a year and a half ago to get my CDL and Go against "Father knows best." I went to Amarillo College Truck Driving Academy, which i highly recommend to anyone looking at getting their CDL quickly, and started "Trucking" for a local dirt work company. I ran a belly dump for the better part of a year, worked with some really great guys, then decided to leave my small town ways and move to the "BIG city" that i was born in. I moved back to DFW about 2 months ago now and started working for the OTR company i am with currently doing regional runs. I'm moderately happy with the company, i get bout .34 a mile empty/loaded, and 15/hr for any wait time. We run "newer"(term lightly used) trucks and "decent" trailers. but the home time is good and the miles are there if i want 'em. I apologize in advance for any comments that are made in ignorance, and i know ill make them, i am a newbie after all. I really hope you old hands wont give me too much grief. I've been stalking these forums for about 6 months now and finally decided that since im starting my OTR career, that "you people" would be the best help in the never ending quest for "greener pastures".

    Dont really know what else to put here. Any questions feel free to ask.
    Thanks,
    James.



    P.S. Sorry if this all seems really wordy. Didn't really know what to put so i just kinda started typing and let my fingers decide what to say.
     
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  3. d o g

    d o g Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Welcome to TTR, James. Good luck with the OTR gig.
     
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  4. stone24

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    Hi James, I'm Dave, and I'm from the DFW area too. I've been reading about the Amarillo College TDA and seriously considering it. My dad's been an oo for a while now too. He did some driving when I was a kid, then on to dispatch, now oo for Landstar. I might end up oo someday, but I just want to be a company driver OTR with as many miles as I can get. With my military background and the fact that I'm single, I figure I could handle a month or longer OTR.
    The 7-week course at A.C. can be paid for with the gibill, so I'm just trying to figure out if it's a good school. Do they get you a lot of 1-on-1 driving time, or do they pack the cab with students in old trucks on public roads and call all of it 'behind the wheel'? I'm just trying to look out for scams I've read about, and make sure it's worth my while. You seem to have done good for yourself.
    I didn't know that they would pay you for wait time at the dock. I keep hearing truckers complain about waiting for their college school-kid dispatcher taking his/her time if they have a bad day or what-not. $15 bucks an hour would close my trap up tight, unless theres a catch or I'm misunderstanding something.
     
  5. Lilbit

    Lilbit Road Train Member

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    Welcome to the party!
     
  6. Wulfwynn

    Wulfwynn <b>Brand New CDL Holder</b>

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    Welcome James. The beginning of your post is just about how it went with myself and my dad. LoL
     
  7. LoneWolf902

    LoneWolf902 Bobtail Member

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    The class i was in had roughly 13 people to start and they split us up in two groups for the first course that was just us doing the driving test that the state of texas requires and taking practice test. During the morning 6 of us were on the driving course three in trucks, three watching and encouraging other drivers as they took their tests. then after the course was run twice we would switch. That continued for about 4 to 5 hours until lunch. Then our group was sent inside to do lesson plans over the Drivers Handbook and take practice tests until around 4 o' clock. The other group of 7 people would be doing the opposite of us throughout the day. At the end of the course i was THOROUGHLY prepared for the driving test and the written tests. I passed all of my tests with at least an 89% including my hazmat. Most of which i completed on my first time. The driving test itself is done in an automatic daycab with a 38' flatbed trailer and alot of the reason for that is because if you hit a curb once, You fail. Quite frankly even if you take most of the corners wide as hell there is hardly any room for you NOT to hit the curb in a real truck with a real trailer. You can do it in the school truck pretty easy, but one day i drove through the exact same course in a sleeper mack with a 48' dry box. Next to impossible not to hit the curb on the first friggin turn.lol. After taking the test, Assuming you pass, You have about a week left of the first course to drive in a straight 10 freightshaker up and down the campus roads (its on an old airforce base so there is plenty of room) as they teach you how to double clutch. Side note: they get pretty frustrated when you start floating, lol, i can't count how many times they told me "stop floating and use the clutch." Now if you spring for the extra couple hundred bucks, Or if the GI bill will in your case, you can take the "advanced Course". The advanced course in my case was 8 students and it was all driving for 3 weeks. We had to keep a correct and legal logbook for the entire course so we could get familiar with them. We put in about 500 miles each for the course, We hauled flatbeds, Tankers that were filled to about half, 53' reefers, and a set of doubles. We took two runs through amarillo one with the tankers which ,with as much slosh as they got, was fun. The other run was with the doubles during "rush Hour". We also had a night run from about 7pm to about 4am. All in all the advanced course is great everyone in the truck gets alot of hands-on experience driving, hooking, backing, etc. During the last week of the course its all about backing in between two sets of cones from a 90 degree angle both drivers side and blind side. All in all its a great course for a new driver and i HIGHLY recommend it. Jerry is the handbook instructor and is good at his job and will go into as much detail as you need if you don't understand something. Homer is the drive test instructor and even though hes a bit abrasive and kind of an ###, he is good at his job. Bryan is the Advanced course instructor and is one of the better human beings i've met in my life, both as an instructor and a person.

    The equipment that they run in the basic course is all late model except for the freightshaker that me and another student got to drive during the basic course. Only reason we ran it was because we were tired of running automatics and we were both truckers kids and by god we wanted a little bit of a challenge. After taking out a stop sign with the hood, that we decided was a better idea not to tell anyone about, we parked it for the duration of the course.
    For the advanced course your running a 2007 sleeper mack, and a 2008 O/O Western star 4900. So all the equipment is anything but old, The Star Car is one of the nicest trucks ive been in to date.

    I hope this helps your decision making, i cant speak for any other training courses but i believe that from what ive heard about them AC provides one of the best.
     
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  8. stone24

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    It sounds great. I hope it wasn't a public stop sign :biggrin_25523: I'm pretty sure the GI Bill will cover the Advanced course as well. I really look forward to driving underneath those Amarillo skies in the freightshaker:blob3: Just wait till my dad finds out I'm going...:blob6: probably won't be the happiest camper in the lot, but I will be! Thanks for all the details James. Gonna go fishin in the mornin and think about this for a while.:fish: Adios amigo, y vaya con dios.:smt028

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  9. stone24

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    I have my sights set on a job with Crete Carrier. At .41cpm for a rookie, I'm stoked:biggrin_2554:! I'd like to add that I know you don't always get what you want and not everything works exactly as advertised.. but life goes on. I just found out about PTDI certification, and wouldn't you know it: Crete requires a PTDI cert, but Amarillo College does not give it. I called the program director for their trucking academy this morning and found out. So, I looked at ptdi.org and found a school that does: houston community college.
    If you are a Texas Veteran, I'll let you know now- the gi bill (even ch33) benefits don't apply towards Texas college trucking programs. I have to use the Hazelwood Act Exemption, which is different, because normally you can't use Hazelwood benefits until your gi bill runs out of money. However, the Hazelwood Exemption applies since gi bill benefits aren't even applicable to the program of study (trucking academy). In short: you get to go for free, but you have to fill out more forms and you have to pay for books and housing out of pocket. (I assume the books will be free handbooks anyway.) Both of the courses in Amarillo College and HoustonCC are 7 weeks long. You can get your hazmat and forklift licenses at AC, but I don't know what HCC offers yet. Gonna call them in the morning, and I'll post my findings here tomorrow.
    It's shaping up to look like Houston is my best bet, and I've filled out the application and all the forms. All I need is a fax number to send to enroll in the morning after I call them. The next class begins Oct 17th I think. I'm disappointed that I wont get to drive in on The Plains in Amarillo, but I'll get my chance one day, no doubt. PTDI certification... I hope it's worth it.
     
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  10. Nycmex77

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