Class A licesce

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  1. THBatMan8

    THBatMan8 Road Train Member

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    How so? If you don't need the above items then don't waste your time and money getting them. GVW is the weight of your vehicle loaded, not empty.

    You can drive vehicles that weigh up to 26,001 LBS GVW all day long and not need a CDL. If you stay within the 100 air mile radius and work less than 12 hours a day, you don't need a logbook.
     
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  3. Slavetotheroad

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    If you are pulling a hotshot trailer, no matter what you are pulling it with it is a combination vehicle. You need a CDL. If it's under 26,000# you might get away with a B. Over 26,000 you need a CDL-A. You also need to log. Anything over 10,000# needs to log. Why do so many try to reinvent the wheel? Of course all this goes out the window if you are driving a farm vehicle. with the farm truck, you can drive anywhere within a 100 mile radius of the truck's domicile without any of the above.
     
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  4. THBatMan8

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    What do you mean by hotshot? Hazmat? If you're referring to hazmat, it depends on the quantity. Usually, hazmat loads under 500 LBS do not need to be placarded. If they do not need to be placarded, you don't need a hazmat endorcement.

    Placarded hazmat under 26,001 LBS GVW would be a class C CDL with a hazmat endorcement. Just because you have a CDL doesn't mean you can pull hazmat.

    Over 26,001 LBS would require a class A with a hazmat endorcement, if this was a combination vehicle. A straight truck over 26,001 LBS would require a class B.

    You don't need a CDL driving a farm vehicle, regardless of it's GVW or cargo. Agriculture, emergency, and military vehicles are exempt.
     
  5. Shoestring

    Shoestring Light Load Member

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    over 26k but trailer gvwr under 10k can be done with a class B. Trailer over 10k then class A. I could pull a trailer with my class B as long as the gvwr of the trailer was under 10k.

    Hazmat, that is a way out my league for now, been studying though.
     
  6. THBatMan8

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    GVW is a combination of both the tractor and trailer.

    CMV's rated 10,001 LBS GVW to 26,000 LBS GVW can be driven with a class C CDL. It doesn't matter if it's a combo or not. You only need a class A when your combination vehicle weighs more than 26,000 LBS GVW. When your straight truck/bus weighs more than 26,000 LBS GVW, that's when you need a class B CDL.

    Who needs to log? It depends on if you're short haul or not. If you're reporting back to the origination and clocking out within 12 hours of start time and you operate within a 100 air mile radius of the origination, you don't need to log anything.
     
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  7. Shoestring

    Shoestring Light Load Member

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    Gvw = gross vehicle weight---can be used for truck or trailer
    gcvw= gross combined weight---used for truck and trailer combined
    The above is what I was referring too, GVW can also be used for a combined.


    In FL if your gcvw is under 26k, but your trailer GVW is over 10k then you need a class A. Any time the trailer gvw is over 10k Class A is required. Not 100% sure, but I think it is a federal law as well. If I am wrong, someone please post a link showing otherwise. All of this is based on COMMERCIAL use. private use is another thing entirely.

    I operated a 26k CMV with air brakes in FL GA and AL for 2 two years with a Class D, no air brake endorsement was needed. No Class C was required. Class c here in FL is basically for hauling passengers, and hazmat in smaller trucks.

    I agree on the logs though, 100 mile air and report back to same location, no log needed.
     
  8. Lilbit

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    Hotshot is what expediters are. HazMat is a whole other ball of wax.
     
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  9. THBatMan8

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    It's simple math. 26k + 10k = 36k = class A CDL. Not just in Florida but around the entire country as these regs are federal and not state.

    IIRC, the class D CDL no longer exists. Some states called that the chauffeur's license. Florida got rid of that license years ago. If you had it before, your license probably got granfathered to Class C status.
     
  10. THBatMan8

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    I never heard of a expiditer load called a hotshot load. Learn something new every day. :)
     
  11. Lilbit

    Lilbit Road Train Member

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    That one's been around for a while.
     
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