Sudden drop in MPG

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by gentleroger, Sep 19, 2011.

  1. gentleroger

    gentleroger Road Train Member

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    I drive an 04 Century w/802K on it. All summer long I sat around 6.3 mpg running mainly Chicago to Atlanta and idling about 4 hours a day. During the spring when I wasn't idling I got around 6.8-7 mpg. Two week ago I went in for an A pm and the mechanic found the u-joint was "close to failing". I was in a loaner for a week, then got the truck back last Monday. Running between St Louis, Iowa, and Green Bay, idling less than an hour a day I got 4.8 mpg.

    Is there any possibility that the drop in mpg and the replacement of the ujoint are connected? If not do you have any theory that might explain the drop?
    Thanks.
     
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  3. Tazz

    Tazz Road Train Member

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    Yes but unlikely. The mech could have left a carrier bearing loose allowing the driveshaft to bind, or harmed(bent/broken/moved you ride guage to cause a bind in the driveline. A drop that big would most likely feel like a brake hamging though so I would think you would feel the difference if any of those are the cases. Does it feel harder to start out empty?

    I would check to make sure the driveline is secure, and properly aligned.

    And which U joint was it. If he backed of a pinion nut and forgot to retighten it?????
     
  4. gentleroger

    gentleroger Road Train Member

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    Nothing feels different, either empty or w/43k in back. I don't know which U-joint went bad, when I was told it would be 5 days before the parts were in I started trying to find a loaner. In hindsight I should have asked more questions.

    If everything looks aligned and secure (which is just a guess on my part having never seen what a misaligned one looks like) do you think it's safe to run or should I make a big stink and have the shop reexamine the repair?
     
  5. Mr. PlumCrazy

    Mr. PlumCrazy Road Train Member

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    5 days for a u-joint what kind of u-joint do that truck have. my mechanic got a drive shaft slip joint assy u-joint and had it welded up within a few hours. But for that amount of drop in fuel mileage it might be a combination of things.
     
  6. Tazz

    Tazz Road Train Member

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    If it's out you will see new wear lines at the slip joints, and /or knicks on the u joints.

    Best would be to have someone forward and back( maybe two three feet) and watch the driveline for movement. If somethings out of line you'll see it in the difference of torque between forward and back.

    I would call and talk with the mechanic that effected your repair with your concerns. A reputable one will think through anything they could have done to effect it. Honestly I believe you would already noticed the drag if that was the problem.


    I just saw the 5 days part. Did they replace the mid-shaft between axles or something? Man a ujoint should have been in stock or a couple hours at most..


    And this mileage number is that a pump/mile figure or an ECM number?
     
  7. Les2

    Les2 Road Train Member

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    If it had anything to do with the U-joint you'd notice a vibration of some sorts. Even if the carrier bearing was off it wouldn't cause a loss like this in fuel. You most likely wouldn't even know a difference until it wore out another U-joint.

    Your problem lies somewhere else. Does this mechanic have access to a computer and any programs to hook to your truck and change anything in the ECM? If so, you may want to consider stopping somewhere and seeing it they can tell when the last time someone got into it.
     
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  8. nuts&bolts123

    nuts&bolts123 Light Load Member

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    yes, i agree with Les2 have the ECM checked, restricted air intake can cause terrible fuel loss but that dosent happen overnight. meaning you park truck had good fuel milage then next day your getting 2 gal less a mile. my guess is the moron was under your tractor. check breather line (bad pcv filter in car + bad fuel milage) truck has crank case breather i,ve seen these kinked back causes fuel loss and excess oil consumption. check those first if nothing apparent then have ecm checked.
     
  9. paul 1052

    paul 1052 Heavy Load Member

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    Is this your truck or their truck?
     
  10. fortycalglock

    fortycalglock Road Train Member

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    Have you thought that maybe the mechanic helped himself to some of your fuel? Were the readings you made including fuel that was in the truck while being repaired, or did you fill up right after and then calculate from the next fill up?
     
  11. gentleroger

    gentleroger Road Train Member

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    It is a company truck and Im using pump numbers to calc mpg. Ill be past a company shop today so Ill have them.check the ecm. Thanks for.your help.
     
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