Who Ya gonna Call?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by miker61002, Oct 11, 2011.

  1. miker61002

    miker61002 Bobtail Member

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    My question is probably best answered by a D.O.T. (past or present), enforcement type... Here goes:

    The SHORT version:

    A broker booked me for a load picking up @ 3pm CST in DFW area with a scheduled delivery for 11am MST in Albq., NM... a 630 mile (10-11 hr drive @ night in TX)... The problem: After getting off the shipper's dock @ 6pm CST and driving for 11/14 compliance, I'm in NM No Later Than 5am CST (4 am MST). Taking my 10 hr break puts me at 3pm CST.. well AFTER the scheduled delivery appt... the receiver doesn't start ops until 6am MST (7 CST), so early drop is NOT an option... likewise, they close shop @ noon MST (1pm CST), so a late drop is also NOT an option.... consequently, the truck gets laid over for 24 hours with no income... As the driver, I attempted to resolve this problem BEFORE it happened by showing up @ the shipper 10 hrs EARLY for my appointment to explain the issue... I was turned away and told to stick to the appt times.... Can any enforcement action be taken against broker and/or shipper?

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  3. crzyjarmans

    crzyjarmans Road Train Member

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    Im not a DOT, past or present, but i would dout anything can be done against the broker or shipper, Are you on E-log, why not just make delivery as schedule?
     
  4. miker61002

    miker61002 Bobtail Member

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    Well, the fact that the shipper wrote the times I entered and left their facility on the BOL AND the fact that I got a Level I D.O.T. @ the NM Port of Entry, kinda makes it REAL risky to pencil-whip the logbook.
     
  5. mgfg

    mgfg Road Train Member

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    Why is the broker culpable in this? You booked the load, hauled the load and accepted the terms. YOU tried to deliver early and were refused. Where's the crime?
     
  6. miker61002

    miker61002 Bobtail Member

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    I did NOT book the load... the broker did... I only included the SHORT version of events... some details which might assist:

    I showed up @ the shipper 10 hrs early in order to explain the problem and get it resolved before it became an issue. I was sent away (rather impolitely), and told to stick to the scheduled appointment times. The "crime" as you put it is this: I face a fine for late delivery because the BROKER can't do the math ... my truck sits idle for 2 full days... again, because the BROKER can't do the math... the shipper is also responsible since THEY should know what is allowable to transport their product from point A to point B. As for attempted early or later delivery options, the receiver's operation times fall within the 10 hour break, so there's NO possibility of early or later same-day delivery.

    Essentially, the driver (ME), was placed in a situation where I am forced to accept a fine AND 2-days sitting around with no pay, OR run an illegal log.

    So... now that you have the nitty-gritty, ya might wanna take a harder look at the way drivers treat each other.
     
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  7. mgfg

    mgfg Road Train Member

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    What's the relationship between you and the broker? Does the broker book your loads? What say do you have in accepting or turning down the loads?

    The long and short of it is the load was accepted and then YOU tried to change the parameters/scheduling of it. That should have been done before the load was accepted.

    Again, the broker, shipper, consignee are NOT responsable/culpable in this. You are the captain of the ship and it is your responsability to be compliant.
     
  8. miker61002

    miker61002 Bobtail Member

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    I'm a company driver... I have NO say in my loads... so, therefor, I am NOT captain of the ship. It's one thing to declare (when you have no financial stake in the game), that the driver can refuse a load at will... we ALL know that's not the case for a company driver who needs to feed his family... you are just being a jerk... admit it, and move on... shippers, brokers, etc CANNOT book illegal runs and then FINE a driver for not making the appointments... they are definately responsible... your position is like saying: Well, YOU put the fuel in your truck, so if it was sour and your injectors fried, it's YOUR fault, not the fuel distributor... that's just stupid, and you know it.
     
  9. mgfg

    mgfg Road Train Member

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    YES, you are the captain of the ship! NO ONE is holding a gun to your head forcing you to do anything illegal! Just tell your boss/dispatcher that it "ain't gonna happen". Offer him the truck and the keys and see how quickly his tune changes.

    If you are "forced" (in your mind) to run illegal either suck it up and do it without pizzing about, have your employer change things OR change employers.
     
  10. miker61002

    miker61002 Bobtail Member

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    RIIIIIGGHHT!!! And you're gonna feed my family after I get canned and can't find another job because my DAQ report is fouled up by such an episode??? dude... put down the crack pipe and return to REALITY... what a concept! If you don't have a legitimate answer to my original question, just keep your rude, stupid, ignorant sniping to yourself.

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  11. AXE

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    Call the US Marshalls! :biggrin_25526:
     
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