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Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by slowhandpete, Oct 14, 2011.

  1. Greasehauler

    Greasehauler Light Load Member

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    Yes, when there are special circumstances, the freight may pay much better. However, this discussion was started because some O/Os are accepting low paying loads. My point is, 99% of the freight is not special circumstance freight. So, the rates are indeed much lower.
    What I've been trying to prove is that it's not the O/Os fault that they're accepting low paying loads. I believe that most do what they have to do so they can make money in the long run. Some, of course, are stupid and end up losing their businesses.
     
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  3. Greasehauler

    Greasehauler Light Load Member

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    If I make profit, then I owe IRS money. if I don't, then I owe nothing. Your logic is flawed.

    As far as drivers being accountants and mechaics, I think you're confusing O/Os with hired drivers. Hired drivers take the truck in to change a mud flap. The only accounting skills required are keeping track of COMPANY's money that they're spending. Yes, I do require a log of all expenses. So, 36c/mile, which amounts to about $1000/week for doing nothing but driving is a very good rate.
     
  4. OEF08

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    I'm new to all this but is there such a thing as a O/O that brokers his own freight? I've seen online classes on how to broker freight and if not to broker freight myself, to learn how brokering freight works to help me deal with a broker in the future if need be. To understand that end of moving freight and to make sure I'm not getting ripped off. So, is there a O/O that brokers his own freight? Curious....
     
  5. BigBadBill

    BigBadBill Bullishly Optimistic

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    Yes, you have to have a brokers authority in addition to opperating authority.
     
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  6. Greasehauler

    Greasehauler Light Load Member

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    Are you sure? I was under the impression that if you have carrier's authority, you can deal directly with shippers without brokers. I may be wrong, but I think the question really was if you can carry direct shipper's freight, not find freight and have someone else carry it.
     
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  7. BigBadBill

    BigBadBill Bullishly Optimistic

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    If the question was can I deal direct with shippers with just my authority? Then yes, you can deal direct with just you're operating authority.

    Id you want to be able to broker the Load then you need to add brokers authority.
     
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  8. BigJohn54

    BigJohn54 Gone, but NEVER forgotten

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    With all due respect your mentality is destructive to our industry. I am so tired of the "it isn't my fault mentality". If you haul cheap freight you are part of the problem period. If you don't make a profit, you are not a very adept businessman and again you are part of the problem.
     
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  9. LBZ

    LBZ Road Train Member

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    Yes you can get your own work direct with your operating MC. If you put that freight on a truck you do not own or is not under your authority, then you need a broker MC with bond.

    edit: Didn't see BBB post answering this already.
     
  10. Greasehauler

    Greasehauler Light Load Member

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    This is the same as saying that if you shop at Wallmart, you're hurting every small business in America. You do try to find the product at least expensive price when you buy it for yourself, don't you? So the problem really starts with you not willing to pay for the product, which in turn makes the product reseller not willing to pay much to the trucking company delivering it. Look at the big picture.

    I've been doing this since 2004, through the thick and thin and I'm still in business, doing just fine. So, I think my business skills are right where they need to be.

    Every business has participants with high prices and discounters. Trucking is no different. It's how you build your own strategy that counts, not what some brokers are willing to pay.
     
  11. Billyjack

    Billyjack Light Load Member

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    What if you have a driver and you are paying him .36 to .40 cent a mile?
     
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