Help with Roehl and trip planning

Discussion in 'Motor Carrier Questions - The Inside Scoop' started by MP3 > CB, Nov 21, 2011.

  1. GunzFlatbedder

    GunzFlatbedder Medium Load Member

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    should move this to the roehl forum so they can help him
     
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  3. MP3 > CB

    MP3 > CB Medium Load Member

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    A whole Roehl forum?
     
  4. mgt1085

    mgt1085 Medium Load Member

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    lock in the dac section
     
  5. chompi

    chompi Road Train Member

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    You'll get used to it! Forget who said it but figure roughly 600 miles a day. This is running fairly good. If your stopping every hour that won't cut it! When you're on the road you get to your destination as fast as possible and buy as much time as you can on the go. Not by speeding, but by not stopping and planning your day/night out.

    It won't take you long and you will just know how long it takes to get places. You just have to put some time behind the wheel.
     
  6. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    if you feel like you need more time explain your concerns to your FM. Keep in mind you can't plan for all the what-ifs, when something happens all you can do is communicate the delays. Agree on an ETA to start off with, as things don't turn out as expected communicate to your FM that, for example, you spent too much time on the TTR during your lunch break and now you're running 30 minutes late. They'll let you know if the window is flexible or not. At that point you've done what you can do, deliver the load ASAP (safely and legally of course). If there is a service failure a root cause analysis will be done. If you are doing things wrong you'll be accountable for the service failure, if not you wont be.

    It's all good, go forth and make money.
     
  7. DrFlush

    DrFlush Road Train Member

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    Roehl says miles to be driven divided by 50 then result multiplied by 1.1 (E.g. 600 miles divided by 50 MPH = 12 mulitplied by 1.1 = 13.2 hrs.) This compensates for fuel, pti, traffic etc, and is generally gives you plenty of time unless it is a short run. New drivers genrally can figure 45 MPH, more experienced figure 50 MPH. This is what I was told by instructors and trainers at Roehl.
     
    Meltom Thanks this.
  8. MP3 > CB

    MP3 > CB Medium Load Member

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    Very first load, she asks, 'do you know how to trip plan?' She said take the miles and divide by 50 and add the ten hours- 12 hours, and there was no factor of 1.1. And, everything is new right down to how to manipulate that lock that goes on the trailer or the leaking jug of antifreeze in my side compartment plus I have to do paper and electronic logs which I can hardly fathom.

    I complained and said I need more time and she gave me a few extra hours on the first load which was good because I didn't get there too early.

    I gather she was a super trucker back in the day. But, like the above post where I was advised that you log it one way and run it another, the electronic log cuts out a lot of that and she seems to be dispatching me as if I still have all that wiggle room, and I don't.

    And, when I spoke to her boss and tried to gain some concessions? (45 mph planning, new dispatcher...) None. Strawmen arguments, moving targets and obfuscation.

    Not sure where you draw the line on a shorter run but it was 9 runs in 10 working days (plus the day in a motel plus the day on detention).
     
  9. MP3 > CB

    MP3 > CB Medium Load Member

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    600 miles per day? When you are unloading and loading every day?

    How many of my meals am I expected to eat behind the wheel?
     
  10. MP3 > CB

    MP3 > CB Medium Load Member

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    OK, item by item. I've tried to gain concessions, so far, nothing.

    This thing about communicating delays, I don't know if I'm getting it. If you have a couple extra hours on a load you are in position to absorb most of the uncertainties I itemized on the first page. I don't know what is going on here. Are they taking away that couple of extra hours and then expecting me to communicate a delay every time something doesn't work out perfectly? Is it different here in that regard?

    What does it mean to agree on an eta? You get a preplan and you accept it or you non commit and it sounds like somebody is going to be unhappy if you do a bunch of non commits. I never gathered they were soliciting my opinion on the eta?

    I don't mean to come off snarky, it's just that I've been really frustrated and angry. I don't live off filterless Marlboros and Monster energy drinks trying to deliver as much freight as I humanly can. I do see now that my desire to pull into a TA and get a work out in one of their exercise rooms a few times a week is subject to scorn and laughter...
     
  11. MP3 > CB

    MP3 > CB Medium Load Member

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    Yeah, I just saw DAC and thought it was something else. I've just started reading over the posts there, it's pretty interesting, I'm going to read more when I get time.
     
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