Is this truck right for frac sand hauling?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by kg1234, Nov 28, 2011.

  1. kg1234

    kg1234 Bobtail Member

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    2006 FREIGHTLINER CL12064S - COLUMBIA 120Stk #6LN84366US $36,500TX [​IMG]Mid Roof XT Sleeper; DDC 14.0 Detroit Engine 455 hp; Diesel; 586,662 mi; 10 Spd OD; Engine Brake; Air Ride Suspension; 2.62 Ratio; 22.5 LP Tires; Aluminum/Steel Wheels; 230 in Wheelbase; 12,000 lb Front Axle Weight; 40,000 lb Rear Axle Weight;


    Looks like a great deal, will mostly be on flat lands but will encounter some good hills in southwest Texas. Loads will typically be around 50k. I heard its good to have a midroof so it is easy to get under the silos for loading but will need at least 70" cab for the long hours spent unloading on the well site.

    My father in law only recommends a Pete 379 Cummins so I am also considering this one:

    2006 PETERBILT 379Stk #6D633255US $55,900TX [​IMG]63 in Mid Roof Sleeper; ISX Cummins Engine 475 hp; Diesel; 604,000 mi; 13 Spd OD; Engine Brake; Air Ride Suspension; 22.5 Tires; Aluminum Wheels; Tandem Axle; 12,000 lb Front Axle Weight; 40,000 lb Rear Axle Weight;

    Is the Pete worth the extra $$$ ???
     
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  3. haulhand

    haulhand Road Train Member

    The shaker will work but you will hate that 2.62 ratio on a soft lease. A 70 inch isn't really needed as it adds weight and you want to be as light as you can be really wait times on the well aren't that long so a smaller sleeper is ok. I would spend the extra money on a paccar product just because it will hold up better. In my experience KW's hold up to the condition better than petes.
     
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  4. Ruges

    Ruges Light Load Member

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    I think the answer is in a question. What do you prefer more, relaxing in the sleeper or polishing the chrome on the outside?
     
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  5. Eaton18

    Eaton18 Road Train Member

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    I vote for polishing the chrome. Always done that to my Harleys. If I'm buying it, I'll take a Pete (or a W900) over a shaker any day.. :biggrin_25525:
     
  6. Voyager1968

    Voyager1968 Road Train Member

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    Personally, I would buy the one that gets the job done with the least amount of cost per mile/hour. There are so many variables to look at when buying/spec'ing a truck for a particular application.
     
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  7. COrookie

    COrookie Bobtail Member

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    I am no expert but I saw a LOT more 379s hauling sand trailers than shakers. I think I would look older and cheaper for oilfield work, depending on where you want to run. The dirt roads in TX are brutal. I'd be thinking $20-25k truck to start out with.
     
  8. Prairie Boy

    Prairie Boy Road Train Member

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    Run away as fast as you can from the 2.62 rears.
     
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  9. haulhand

    haulhand Road Train Member

    Especially with a 10 spd great for fuel mileage pulling light freight on the flatlands but will really suck on a soft lease in the patch.
     
  10. Trashtrucker1265

    Trashtrucker1265 Road Train Member

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    Keep in mind the weight as well, I would most likely think you're going to get paid by the ton. I drive an 05 International eagle with a 51' flat top sleeper and an 07 heyl aluminum pneumatic, my light weight is somewhere just above 29,000 with full tanks. I'm able to legally gross about 25 tons, I see some guys with freightshakers coming in and leaving with nearly 27 tons, I'm a company driver so I don't know how much 2 tons will really effect the paycheck, but you figure on a 2 load day that's 4 tons, over a course of a 6 day week that's 24 tons more to the lighter weight truck, almost a full load!
     
  11. Rollover the Original

    Rollover the Original Road Train Member

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    Look at a truck purchase as an investment. Call a dealer with the specs on that Freightliner you want to buy but you're selling it and have a heart attack when he tells you he'll pay $25,000- $27,000 if that much!

    You want something that when you are finished with it and ready to sell you'll get something worth getting back! It's resale value at the end of life is what you want also. Not having to pay someone to take it off your hands is not an option! It's part of business. Just remember you are buying 5 year old problems another driver/company sold. What do you think the repair costs will be on things that old?

    That 2:62 is not a good idea for playing in the desert!
    As for the statement of polishing yeah that 2 times a year of giving the money maker some well deserved loving is worth it! Besides getting up close and personal with your truck is how you find problems you normally miss on a regular walk around! Nothing like being seen in a great looking truck over a plastic throwaway! Also you can change the sleeper to something smaller and lighter weight OR get yours customized with a few things that make sitting in the patch waiting for your turn to blow off that sand as I hear happens in both TX and ND frac sites.

    It all comes down to your bottom line and how you want it to be.
     
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