Prime Trainers - Backing

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  1. Nashville Driver

    Nashville Driver Medium Load Member

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    I came across this video from the Safety Department at CR England. First off I'm in no way comparing the training that you provide, to that of CR England, but I have a basic question for my satisfaction.
    I can not believe that CR England makes up their own method of teaching a student to back, I'm sure they are using some established safe methods from way back but.......... watch this video (primarly the 2nd angle back shown), is this the technique your safety department would like to see your new drivers perform, before they test out? Check out the extreme angles this guy is using, and then think about a loaded trailer and the stress on the equipment. I would love some feed back from you all on these techniques. It maybe the standard in the industry, I know your company is on top of the newest safest methods of performing daily tasks in this industry, so that why I'm specifically asking Prime trainiers or former Prime trainers. Thank you inadvance for you input.

    P.S. I hope to someday work in a trucking safety depatment, so thats why I'm studying this so close.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1J0FH4CeaY[/ame]
     
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  3. Nashville Driver

    Nashville Driver Medium Load Member

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    Wow, 53 views and no comments? Come on Ironpony
     
  4. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    Yeah, but almost 16 minutes of those idiots trying to back up a truck??? I'm going to have to get seriously bored for that to register as "relief!"

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  5. Nashville Driver

    Nashville Driver Medium Load Member

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    LOL !! thinking about a career in politics perhaps?
     
  6. Mudrunner

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    Thats pretty much it. Some drivers will do it a little different but it gets er done. I don't see any thing hard on the equiptment.
     
  7. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    Well, now this is CRE we're talkin' about!:biggrin_2559:
     
  8. Nashville Driver

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    Seriously, jack knifing in those extreme angles is not hard on equipment with a fully loaded trailer? I guess I was trained differently. I know there are always going to be certain situations where you need to do extreme maneuvers, but I rarely find it necessary to do a jack knife like they are doing in that video, but maybe that’s the safest way?
     
  9. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    Why would that be hard on the equipment?

    It has advantages, and its a technique you should know. First, it usable in the minimum amount of space between trailer rows, second, with the tandems slid back, it doesn't leave a lot of trailer swinging outside of the tandem tire track, and allows the driver a good view of where the end of the trailer is.
     
  10. Nashville Driver

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    Anytime you jackknife a trailer like that under load, it’s hard on the suspension, if you don’t believe ask any of Prime's trailer techs .
    Fair enough, I'm just looking to create a dialog. I guess in the reefer world, you need to do this type backing, but anytime I’m jackknifing like they show in this video and I’m doing a simple 45 back I would question whether I had the correct set up. Make sense?
     
  11. ironpony

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    And a heavy-duty class 8 truck's suspension is not built to "take" that sort of load? I'd think that's not the case. Ol' "Ken" is right about one thing though... you want to be as close to lined up straight with the trailers defining the "target zone" as possible when you back through the plane that defines the trailer ends.
     
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