microBlue Front wheel bearings

I got to say I am kind of lost on your train of thought. Even at a small gain of .2 MPG can lead to great savings in the long run. I stated in my reply message to you that I have seen a .2 increase in just doing my trailer bearings and I am still running heavy gear lube. I am sure if I would of ran 50W and with the summer fuel I would have seen a easy .5 MPG increase. To me this represents a savings of $7,000+ a year in fuel just from the trailer bearings. I for one like Microblues service and quality of the product. After feeling one of their treated bearing in your hands compared to a typical Timpken you will see the difference and become a believer. Why does a company have to offer a guarantee on a product even if it works. If you want a peice of paper to make you feel comfy...thats fine. But I prefer to have real world results from guys that are not associated with a company besides being a customer. Myself and others have given this forum their finds and yet you fail to believe them...thats your choice. Now pony up the money and get your own results to prove us wrong. Remember this is a business and with no risk you get little or no reward. This is a calculated risk that all who have tried have seen improvements.

 

100% agree with pulling trucker, robsredford. The way I look at trucking these days, at least the sector I work in, is with all the variables you can't control you might as well get ahead on the ones you can. You know like fuel mileage or tire costs. Why are some so afraid to think outside the box? Just because it hasn't been done that way in the past doesn't mean it won't be standard practice in the future. Advances in technology are a good thing. Think about this , if the advancements in trucking since the 70's weren't made or if old school truckers scared of change had there way we all would still be riding in 359 petes or diamond plate flat fender autocar's with a ###### 290 cummins hendrickson spring or walking beam with Dayton wheels and bias ply tires.. but were not. If the science behind the product seems sound, why not try it? To gripe about a $500 upcharge or what ever it may be seems silly to me when most every o/o truck I see including the ones that are falling apart have Chrome nut covers hub caps, naked lady flaps, leds or a big radio with a 7 trillion watt heater on it. I'd put money on the fact that all of us have blown at least $500 on dumb shizz we don't need and doesn't make any $$ at all , so when it comes time to do wheel bearings anyway why not try it?? That $500 now could pay for those spiked lug nut covers you bin droolin over in just a few days..

 

Right now there is around 200 trucks with MicroBlue Bearings on the road and the only 2 users with experience with them here have posted how they have worked for us.

I am just posting my results with MicroBlue Bearings and it does not matter to me if you buy them or not. That is your choice.

I have posted results on other products I use on here from a hydrogen generator that has been removed to the Turbo 3000d Vada that has also been removed to Xtreme Fuel Treatment that does not work to solar panels mounted on tractor to Pittsburgh Power Products and Fleet Air filters. I am always testing something. MicroBlue just happens to be one the many items I have tested, but few have heard about, but more and more are using them on their trucks.

 

Here is my chain of thought, you're welcome to chime in(I've challanged this coating to see what feedbacks will surface, keep in mind - I've never said that it does not work) when replacing the old bearings with the new, new bearings are going to be tighter in tolerance vs the
Old, not the Bering that will be tight but
The tolerances. Now. It is not necessary for the old bearing to start humming if it's out of tolerance here and there. So, the out of tolerance bearing will start to "walk" therefore, will loose some of its "free" potential. The slight gain in the mpg that is seen can be the cause of the simple explonation: true bearing will be more efficient than the bearing that began to walk. Therefore, the true Bearing will yield greater savings. The walking bearing can only be proven as a walking bearing by rather physical feel of the Play or by digital analyzing station, where the components are measured via the "robot". In other words, depending on the previouse use and abuse of the bearing, the mpg gain could be realized by replacing used bearings with the quality new bearings. Then, the coating may help some as well. In other words, if any gains are seen on the mpg side are then, it is the combination of the new bearings and the microblue - unless someone takes off their wheel bearings, treats them and reinstalls on the equipment and brags about gains - since this is almost the most absurd way of doing things, the part of the fuel gain must go to the bearing being new.

Next, 100,000 mi \ 6 mpg = 16,666.6667 •$3.75 my fuel = $62,500
1000,00/6.2mpg =16,129.0323•3.75=60,483.871. (2,016.12903)
If it's true. You can also try running with turbo 3000 lol.
It's a RISC. It's sound in theory, not enough physical evidence. You, customer,gave me a solid answer. Microblue As a company could not give me any numbers. - made me, and others I know, think.

Oil: I've changed the sludge from the gearbox and 2 screws and refilled it with amsoil 50 wt, seen no diff.

I use Lucas in the front hubs. Lil thick, I know. But, my sight glass broke and I drove with the glove around the hub for 700 mi in that day, nobody closer,my way, had any, and the dealer that had it in stock would total 700 mi that day, in UT. I have the small 5 bolt hubcap. I really do believe that the bearing would not have been lubricated as good as it did with 5

 

That didn't sound very American when you think many are still driving with classic conventionals. Try something new and buy an aerodynamic truck, you will save more than any of the bearings can.

BTW, try ceramic bearings, they cost thousands but might save you 0.0002 mpg or something...

 

You are sort of right in your thoughts. I measured my wheel end play and all four positions were still within spec (TMC specs) and the tires showed no abnormal wear. This tells me that my old bearings were perfectly fine and did not need replaced. I also stated that after the install I saw a .2 MPG increase. The only reason I didn't see more was that i put 75W90 back in (instead of 50W which might of gained me a little more) and I was off for a couple of weeks in which time the 2 places I fuel switched over to winter blend. We all know that trucks loss about .3 or more on winter blend compared to summer blend. Add to the fact that I have been fighting some hard winded storms running through the area every week and I easily see the improvement being in the .5 or maybe .6 range.

But for the sake of arguement lets take the coating out of the equation. Do you feel that polishing the bearings does any good? I sure do considering looking at the results under the microscope (and not just Microblue's website photos). I beleive the true gains are in the polishing effect and the coatings contribute to it. If this is the case I still would pay for the bearings.

I know of a few big name dealerships that have mechanics with over 30 years expereince that are becoming dealers for Microblue. They see the true potential after having many of their repeat customers bring the bearings in for install. The repeat customers keep very accurate records and they have all seen improvements in the .4 range just doing the trailers. Matter of fact a few guys have taken their brand new trucks in to have Microblue bearings installed. Heck a couple guys have seen a improvement of .8+ by doing a 5 axle tractor trailer. Hmm, .8 improvement...how long is the ROI? Pretty darn quick. I have a friend on this board (that will remain nameless until he wants to post his results) that has done his 5 axle combo. He has seen a dramatic drop in boost pressure and the seat of the pants feel when it comes to getting his ride moving. He is still getting measurements on MPG increases and I am betting its in the .7+ range. This man is more accurate with his fuel mileage tracking than many of us could ever be.

But like I said before, if you need that peice of paper to make you feel comfy...than so be it. I have given this forum pretty much all the info I have of this date. It shows my stock bearings were still within spec (and near the tight side) and I still gained with the Microblue units. I understand your thinking, but the proof is here for all to see. Even if I have to replace the bearings every year there is still a quick ROI...but bearing replacement will never be that short of a lifespan with these units since they run so true and cool.

As for you Lenny...yeah sure

 

Lenny does have a point. Lol.

As far as mpg gains, out of hundreds of people who did the on their trucks, only two stated, what seems to be - may be, correct info.
The reason, as I've noted above, I've challenged the
Topic is to have more than 2 real users respond.

 

Lenny, yeah I know and your right , I run a 379 long hood myself. I got no problems with the guys that run the classics, but I would be willing to bet there are more than a few things on their trucks that are a part of modern technology. I doubt many are still running straight 30w oil in the engine. As far as areodynamic trucks go, why would I want to upgrade to a $150,000 truck then spend another $10,000 getting it fixed so it won't I've its life at the dealer and maybe get better mpg than I get now.
I'm not trying to argue with you at all, but for what it costs to maintain these trucks a year a $500 extra investment into something you have to replace anyway is a drop in the bucket. If it works great, if not your only out $500 not $150,000 like the poor basterd who belive what his salesman told him, you know the these trucks get 7.5 -8 mpg right off the showroom floor, and no "xyz" engines has got it all figured out now, you won't have engine trouble..... That is all most an exact quote given to a friends father , who now says buying that truck was the worst decision ever. He now says that 5 mpg truck with 1.8 million miles on it he sold for pennies may not have been much , but it ran every day. Not all morden technology is an improvement.

In my line of work there is no "aero" option, its like driving a barn door down the road. BTW I average 7.22 mpg with my big hood door. I do belive I will try them, I've got some other maintenance projects coming up, and since they will be laying on the floor allready with 750,000 miles on them why not?

Should be a good test. 20,000 steer 20,000 lift 46,000 rears on a strait truck carrying 70,000 to 80,000# gross 100,000 miles a year.

For what I have invested it my truck, I can't see where even an additional $2000 over the course of ten years is going to kill you, even if you see no gain in mpg shouldn't those bearings run cooler and therefore last longer? If it does make an improvement in mpg that even better .

Lenny, I understand why you say it doesn't or won't work, but at least the extra money will be spent on a part that does need to be replaced and not some bolt on gizzmo that was never there in first place. A small investment in improving your existing truck will all ways be the better bet the a huge investment in a new truck with a new set of problems.

I do have to ask you Lenny , I know from what I read I belive you build and tune truck engines and race trucks, but do you own and operate a truck of your own? Not a fighting question , just wanted to know.

 

I am not affiliated w micro blue....yes I have supplied them with cores to help the change out...but a small two truck fleet I help maintain has gotten his rear diffs and wheel bearings done on the tractor.....can't do trailer as they are not his but i'll report back results in bout two months.....he keeps excellent records and I know his stuff is in good shape currently...I maintain it....it will be good comparison since leaving one truck undone and run basically together....

 

Anyone knows where I can get my rear end rebuilt? I don't want to buy the reman. Unit. I want to have my rebuilt.