Some of the new HOS!

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by bigcat1124, Dec 22, 2011.

  1. Chain Drive

    Chain Drive Medium Load Member

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    I say we should all work 9-5 Monday to Friday, probably by noon Sunday when the gas station has no gas, and the grocery store has no food, someone will notice truckers work odd hours, drive when we can, and sleep when we are tired. Unfortunately that day won't come, so just grab some loose leaf pages and keep working the way we always will
     
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  3. Working Class Patriot

    Working Class Patriot Road Train Member

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    One better than that...I want to work one day a week...My choice, and get paid for seven......
     
  4. dave26027

    dave26027 Road Train Member

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    Gee- I always did want to work at the mind numbing pace of a Government employee. Grass grows faster than those guys move.

    I won't forget this, folks- time and again Big Brother thinks he has found a better way to do something and it turns out to only be a better way to screw it up. Uncle Sam calls himself a success, I call him a joke.

    Big Government creates problems while fixing problems, then jumps in and fixes the new problems it created while fixing old problems- an endless cycle of mindless, stupid regulation and control. Trucking is already face down in the mud- handcuffed and suffocating. While Big Brother's boot is crushing our faces into the mud, it's telling us it has the solution to our problems.

    Big Government is the only problem trucking ever had in the first place. Get Uncle Slam and his thugs off our back- release us from these ridiculous HOS regulations- and let us breathe! Drivers are hard working blue collar Americans- we can make our own #### decisions and do our jobs more efficiently than Uncle Slam could ever force us to!
     
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  5. wheelwatcher

    wheelwatcher Light Load Member

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    people are actually getting paid with our tax dollars to work continuously on these "studies"... they have to change the rules so they can keep their job studying how the rule changes affected the safety of the roadways...

    most if not all of the accidents i see dont seem to have anything to do with "driver fatigue"

    Study this! The cost of the truck and keeping the truck in permits and insurance means that the owner of the truck wants that thing moving and making money constantly to justify the costs associated... add up all the trucks moving less and now you have to put more trucks on the road wich means more trucks to insure and more permits to buy etc...

    it only has to do with money... nothing to do with safety...
     
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  6. SHO-TYME

    SHO-TYME Road Train Member

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    Ya think?:biggrin_25523:

    The DOT could care less about our safety, they are only concerned about the window lickers out there.
     
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  7. Cowpie1

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    I guess all of us who worked for so many years when there was no reset provision are going to be ahead of the game. We'll get some amusement out of watching how drivers who have known nothing but the reset provision will adapt. Especially those who still believe that big brother has a black helicopter watching them and they have to log every minute at a shipper/receiver as on duty.

    If you just take a log book and work out the details it really isn't that big of a deal. Say you start a reset at 1900 on Friday. You will be have the reset done at 0500 on Sunday. You now have 70 hrs to do your thing. You will be able to start another reset at 1900 on the next Friday. You take the 70 hrs, divide by 6 days, and you can put in over 11.5 hrs a day without running out of hours before you can start the next reset. Most drivers don't even use a full 11 driving each and every day of the week. Chances are they will have a few hours left out of the 70 when they are eligible to start another reset.

    One thing for certain, many will have to learn how to use the regs in a way that work in their favor. But I am not worried whether they will be able to adjust. I adjusted my operation in advance of these new regs to be able to work within them. It will only be a minor inconvenience occasionally.
     
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  8. solarbronco

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    In twenty years we will only be able to drive five days a week, 8 hours a day. These azzwipes make rules just to justify having a job.
     
  9. brsims

    brsims Road Train Member

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    Makes me glad I finally hung it up. The most over-regulated DE-regulated industry out there!:biggrin_25510:
     
  10. RickG

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    It isn't the government causing the problems . It's special interest groups like ATA , Teamsters , Public Citizen , and OOIDA . The courts and regulating agencies have to respond to their complaints .
    Of the organizations I have mentioned , only OOIDA makes requests truly safety related . With the rest it is political and economic attempts to hinder their competition .
    The bad part is OOIDA rarely gets what they ask for . A change in the sleeper hours wasn't even considered . Nobody sleeps 8 hours .
     
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  11. 25(2)+2

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    A guy I used to know explained that the rail carriers, i.e. railroads, were behind most of these 'safety' groups. What I have seen since 2004 when I started driving trucks is a steady move of freight to inter modal, the just in time logistics that made trucking so attractive a way to keep inventory in control has been eroded by the cost of fuel and will be eroded more by changes in delivery times.

    I see trends, like CRST getting into coast to coast team expedited refrigerated, and I'm seeing more reefers riding the rail. I'm seeing more temp controlled in many former all dry lines. Non perishable freight is dwindling in truckload. HOS issues making freight more costly to ship by truck in terms of time, will also move more to rail. It will affect all, long distance, heavy load, freight movement.

    I haven't seen this guy since early 2006, life has been unfair to him as well, but I think he was right about the safety groups.
     
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