Somebody is hauling it ??

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by revelation1911, Jan 13, 2012.

  1. revelation1911

    revelation1911 Heavy Load Member

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    I would look at your CPM I would raise it to about .80 @ mile to give yourself a little wiggle room. I used to try and put loads together, I was always mad at end of the day. I try and get 2.25 headed out and at least 1.90 headed back.
    Most areas I wind up at suck so I bounce about 50% of time. Another thing I look at total miles which lots of them don't. I figure going to load, trip and going home. I also punch in PC miler to see routing if it looks like vericous viens I know I probably don't want to go. Me wanting 2.00 on backhaul is more of a statement I could go for less but why? I'd be a hypocrite to what I preach then. As to smaller truck being cheaper to operate thats not entirely true insurance is about the same, you get five times more hassle from dot, you spend more on repairs sooner. The only real savings is fuel milage and sometimes that can go the way west.So you have to look at the whole big picture.
     
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  3. SMBdriver

    SMBdriver Light Load Member

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    .70 operating cost per mile sounds about right to me. I run a little truck too and last year my average cost per mile was exactly .72

    That includes everything, fuel, maintenance, repairs, motels, eats, permits, truck payments, insurance, well, everything.
     
  4. BoyWander

    BoyWander Road Train Member

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    So who tells the shippers what the going rate for shipping is?

    If a broker puts a load out from Texas, and gets a bid for a 600 mile load at $900, then goes back to the shipper and says "I found a truck, its going to cost $1,500 to ship it."

    Who competes with the brokers for a shipper? The broker can tell the shipper any arbitrary rate, and if the shipper says no, then what?
     
  5. SMBdriver

    SMBdriver Light Load Member

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    I negotiate my own prices with my own customers. I have used brokers in the past but dislike doing so for just that reason... you often don't know what they're actually charging the shipper and therefore don't know what your percentage is taken from. JMHO, don't anyone get your feathers ruffled now...
     
  6. revelation1911

    revelation1911 Heavy Load Member

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    Wait till your truck gets some miles on it. If you over estimate a little you'll never be disappointed. Besdies the point anyway why work cheap
    "charge more, work Less" . I went to a broker's house once it was 2 1/2 stories, there was a BIG winnadego out back, a pool and he and wifey was sitting on couch watching a BIG SCREEN while the drivers calling would pop up on screen from time to time. wife would say you want to talk to them now? Broker would say nah maybe later. So why do you want to provide them with pools and all?
     
  7. BoyWander

    BoyWander Road Train Member

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    Praying for $1.50 a mile out of Texas, no wonder my boss doesn't want to send his drivers out there.

    I almost never go anywhere outside of the states that touch the Great Lakes.
    Almost always IL, IN, MI, OH, PA. Sometimes KY and TN, once NJ and we have a customer to AL and back to Cincy.

    When I requested to go to AZ, she laughed at me. :-(
     
  8. SMBdriver

    SMBdriver Light Load Member

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    Yup. I didn't say I work cheap, I said last year it cost me .72 per mile to run. I made a (small but not bad) profit and it was my first year out.

    Now, having learned some about what I'm doing, I'm hauling much better paying loads now and my profit margin is growing.

    I'm also putting away money for my next truck and repairs when they're needed, so yes, I do figure what I need per mile at a higher level than what it actually cost me last year.

    And yeah, I'd rather keep my money that I earn than give it to some broker, just sayin'.
     
  9. Dino1968

    Dino1968 Light Load Member

    What kind of mileage do you get in general with those rigs ? I mean I'm sure it will differ based on the profile of your load, but overall if you pull something tall as compared to say a 3 foot high load ?
     
  10. SMBdriver

    SMBdriver Light Load Member

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    If I have something on that really catches the wind I can get down to around 5 mpg on hilly terrain pulling a 40' even if it's a relatively light load. Something low profile the same weight is around 8-9 mpg on the 40'.

    On the 20' the worst is about 7mpg and best about 12.

    My best and favorite runs are truck only, then I do 14-17 mpg.
     
  11. Cummins_444

    Cummins_444 Medium Load Member

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    My current cost per mile is $1.70 that is every expense you can think of, including my salary and employment taxes. Last week it was $1.71 per mile.
     
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