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Question for the Haz Mat exp drivers

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Cobra281, Feb 11, 2012.

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  1. Feb 11, 2012 #1
    Cobra281

    Cobra281 Bobtail Member

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    What allows fuel tanker drivers to be able to make deliveries off of designated HM routes. My domicile is located off of a marked HM route so if i get pulled over with hazmat does this mean i can get a ticket? Is there a stipulation that allows HM to be transported on non hazmat routes if it is a local delivery?
     
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  3. Feb 11, 2012 #2
    STexan

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    Product has to be delivered hazardous or not, and obviously not all places who require hazmat deliveries are on a hazmat route, so only local deliveries are exempted from being confined to HM routes. Many neighborhoods and municipalities (as well as the carrier) might frown on someone parking a placarded load on a street, or otherwise unattended in a retail or residential area. Better look into that very closely before taking that position if there is not a terminal reasonably close.
     
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  4. Feb 11, 2012 #3
    Cobra281

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    I did open up the FMCR book and it make notes that it is acceptable to deviate from a HM route where practical for safe haven fuel terminal to load unload or rest. The reason i ask is we have a pickup which is about 10 miles from the terminal that is hazmat usually a few pallets. I generally do not drive the extra 25 miles to run the HM route due to it being unpractical. I was talking to another driver and he was insisting that you must run the HM route or be fined and lose your license. I do not believe that is the case so i was just getting some different opinion on this situation. Thanks for the help.
     
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  5. Feb 11, 2012 #4
    Mommas_money_maker

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    Me personally I would run the hazmat route as I would consider this a gray area but to DOT there are no gray areas.
     
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  7. Feb 11, 2012 #5
    wsyrob

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    I have loaded inside the loop in Atlanta. It feels weird taking an interstate ramp heading into the city. You just need a bill of laden with a load or unload point that can't be reached without driving on that road.
     
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  8. Feb 12, 2012 #6
    mustang190

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    There is always a exemption for local deliveries.
     
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  9. Feb 12, 2012 #7
    CondoCruiser

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    Each state designates how far you can go off the beaten path. Some are a mile, 5 miles, 10 miles and unlimited.

    Edited: Look in the front of your RandMcNally. Page A12 on mine. That's where I seen it. They compiled the rules on each state.

    Texas is unlimited unless otherwise posted.

    49 CFR USC 31114 covers regulations allowing access for loading/unloading.
     
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  10. Feb 12, 2012 #8
    Kittyfoot

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    No, no, no.....look on your gps. Wuzzat? They don't got that feature? Surely thou jestest with me sir. But, but... the NEW guys, the SMART guys all said......:biggrin_25524:

    Awwww, you just messin with the old man's mind.:biggrin_2557:
     
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  11. Feb 12, 2012 #9
    Cobra281

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    excellent info! thx for the quick responses
     
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  12. Feb 12, 2012 #10
    shredfit1

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    Man I feel for you because I've run into the same problem... Can you get a ticket, that answer is Yes. Is it unfair, and does this suck? The answer is yes.

    I've also been in situations with a fully loaded farm chemical trailer... with a delivery to a small town surrounded by 9 ton axle roads... no way to get there. Can I get a ticket? Yes... and they(DOT) have been known to sit and wait. Is it fair? Nope.... I've even had some of the delivery places tell me on the phone there is NO legal way to get to them... Some have even come out with pick-ups w/CB's to run blocker for me... LOL!
     
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