Some OTR wisdom....

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by buckstar80, Feb 18, 2012.

Would I now consider driving OTR?

Poll closed Feb 23, 2012.
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    No way!

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  2. Maybe if I can stay away from home?

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    Yeah, I like the lifestyle!

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    I think I'll just go back to my desk and eat.

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  1. buckstar80

    buckstar80 Bobtail Member

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    I did go home. The point is that if you have someone out 3 to 4 weeks there is no excuse for giving someone home time. No one should have to have anyone drive over 100 miles to get you and bring you home when it's going to cost the company money for you to live in your truck and idle it over the weekend.
     
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  3. buckstar80

    buckstar80 Bobtail Member

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    Fine, make a living in your 62 mph truck. I'll drive the speed limit and move a lot more freight while you sit around and watch the lot lizards waiting for the load I probably got from you. I don't work cheap! I'm no speed demon, I run sensible and efficient. You've been listening to all those truck stop lawyers and environmentalist too long!
     
  4. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    Let me see if I got this straight,someone out a month should not get hometime?Why is that?Far as driving 100 miles to get a person home,that is not unreasonable,many loads a driver has to go pick up is over 100 deadhead miles.Also if drivers give your DM a couple weeks notice that you want hometime,there is no reason why they can't find you a load close to your home.Companies don't even start to looking for a hometime load till a couple days before hometime.Companies are making thousands and some millions a yr in revenue.A hundred miles to get a driver home is just a drop in the bucket in fuel cost with companies.
     
  5. Gizmo_Man

    Gizmo_Man Road Train Member

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    First you said, you were 50 miles from the house. AND you said you "WERE FORCED to stay at the truck stop"
    so which is it, 50 or 100 miles. Please keep your story straight (it goes a long way in believing you, which I never did anyways). As for home time, let me inform you that, in many instances, many companies will keep you out longer than you would wish to, it's part of the OTR life, one in which you did not adjust to.

    Who are you addressing this to??

    Hopefully, not me, as I have a 72 mph truck, and I have a "dedicated account", which means I do not sit at truck stops, and talk with "trucking bozo's". The only times I am at a truck stop is to fuel up, get a coffee/danish, and boogy down the road, back to my warehouse. I actually work LESS THAN a 40 hour work week, but get paid like I worked more. Ah, dedicated, gotta love it.

    you say you "don't work cheap"??

    Excuse me, I was laughing very hard at that. If you work for a trucking company, that almost didn't (or did, straight facts here please), let you go home, you're working cheap.:biggrin_2559:
     
  6. buckstar80

    buckstar80 Bobtail Member

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    OK, there is always people out there who disagree. Let me refine my explanation. Sounds like people are not understanding what I am trying to tell them. I was suppose to off load on a Friday and got the load there Thursday. I waited through Friday to get a load in a major city area (Philly,PA). No luck, so I has to park at a truckbstop in NJ where, if I drove 50 or so miles I could park the truck, lock it and have someone pick me up. The company, who I shall only name as the greatest company to leave 600 plus drivers stranded with dead fuel cards and no way to get home or deliver their loads, (who can that be?) said that I had to get permission to forgo that 50 mile trip. After 3 different people to talk to at two terminals, I was finally given permission to go.

    The point here, as stated is it cost more to idle the truck over the weekend compared to driving 50 miles empty, parking it and leaving it shutdown.

    About speed. Do the math... If you have a 62mph truck and you legally log it, it takes 51.75 hours to go 3000 miles. That equates to approximately 4.7 days of work. Now, do the same in a 75pmh truck.... 42.24 hours to go the same 3000 miles.... approximately 3.8 days. Duh!

    You mean I have to work one extra day per week to make the same miles? I figured at this rate I could probably have added 3 to 4 extra runs a month making more money for both the company and myself.

    The problem? Companies believe in hiring inexperienced drivers cheap which raise there insurance so using the government's way of thinking, they lower the speed of their trucks thinking it will be safer and thereby lower their insurance rates. I know first hand as a driver of both semis and 4 wheelers, driving at 2 speeds, one for cars, one for trucks is dangerous!

    Fuel cost you say? That's the cost of doing business. It's called over head. If you can't manage it correctly like charging or not accepting a realistic rate then it's you own fault. I know many O/O that won't haul anything for less than $2-$2.50 per mile plus surcharge.

    One only needs to to see major companies are in competition...for cheap freight. With 1000 trucks, they only need to profit pennies a mile to make money. They also have better tax incentives and write of to offset the losses.

    I hope I clarified my opinion on these discussions. To all out there...have a safe and stress less day!!
     
  7. Gizmo_Man

    Gizmo_Man Road Train Member

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    when you give out the wrong information, you are apt to be disagreed with.


    I don't know who can that be? If they are no longer in business, or screwed you, why don't you just tell us who they are (or were)?? Why would you "protect them"??


    Uh DUH, you cannot maintain the same speed constantly. That is next to impossible. if you set the cruise control, or use the throttle, you (say) do 62 mph, you may only be "averaging" 48-50 mph.

    I never had to. I always managed the miles. Did you stop way too many times at the truck stops to play the video games? I personally think you just can't handle the job of trucking. You best had better get out while you can.

    Again, much in the way of wrong information. Inexperienced drivers are hired by large companies, many that are "self insured" by the way. The lowering of the speeds of the trucks are "two fold". One is to cut down on fuel consumption, (would you PERSONALLY like to pay what, $4.59 or $5.00 per gallon of diesel??).

    And the "two tier" speed limits ARE dangerous, but it is the way it is. As a so-called professional, which you SHOULD HAVE BEEN, you should have been able to handle this.

    Fuel costs are NOT fixed prices, as fuel costs fluctuate on a daily basis. So in of itself, it is not "overhead". Truck payments, insurance, maintenance are "fixed costs", never fuel...

    Again, you really do not know a ###### thing of what you say.

    (you should give up while you are this far off the track about trucking)

    As far as the o/o charging what HE DOES?? he has what, one truck, maybe one trailer? Of course he can ask for more. But the "benefit of the larger carriers is the abundance of trucks, trailers and drivers at nearly any given location, thus cutting costs to the customer.

    Again, you really do not know a ###### thing of what you say.

    And what is wrong with this?? It is a business after all.

    Again, you really do not know a ###### thing of what you say.

    No, you made yourself out to not being too intelligent about trucking, and spewing not so true information.
     
    Last edited: Feb 23, 2012
  8. TheRoadWarrior

    TheRoadWarrior rocking-n-rollin again

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    KUDOS GIZMAN....i was gonna weigh in on this but ya beat me to it brother... I like the guy in another post who ran 5600 miles in a week at 62 mph with 5 stops....
     
  9. dancnoone

    dancnoone "Village Idiot"

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    Uh.... I ran 5500 in a week. In a 55mph truck, long time ago.

    Nobody said it was legal :biggrin_2559:
     
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  10. TheRoadWarrior

    TheRoadWarrior rocking-n-rollin again

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    and you didnt stop did you...lol...
     
  11. TheRoadWarrior

    TheRoadWarrior rocking-n-rollin again

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    oh i could run 800 or 900 a day if i drop the hammer across the southwest into say texas and run 6000 a week...but i would prolly be in jail...or so dang tired i would fall asleep driving... use to run outlaw back in the day...but it was from point a to point b..
     
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