Crete Carrier is an outstanding company

Eventually when I don't need as much income, I will definitely be looking at something local, but right now I need the income, so OTR is best for me. I'm single and no kids, so not really a huge sacrifice for the short term.

 

I did not expect you to recognize the condescending way with which you treat OTR drivers,so no surprise that you don't think of yourself as coming across as exactly that.

It is not the first time you have responded to a thread about crete being a good company,and in my opinion,questioned the intelligence of those of us who work OTR.
The common thing in your posts is that hourly paid is the only way to go.
It is only after i described my situation where I left my hourly paid job where I was paid for everything I did to work OTR where I am doing free labour as you put it,yet ended up making significantly more, that you seem to recognize that not all hourly paid jobs are worth anything.
What you seem incapable of recognizing and appreciating however,is that some of us are better off looking at an end instead of the means.
As I said before,I could not afford to be preoccupied with 'getting paid for everything i do",when it means grossing around 10,000 per year less than I gross working for free,because I have certain life goals i am working towards
And your response to the situation I described is to speak down to me like I am some child & ask me what goals I was working to achieve. My goals are not only unimportant to this argument,but they are none of your business. And that disdainful attitude of yours is also seen in the way you skirt around other questions I put to you.

I work for a junk OTR company,where I work for free,and gross more than a large number of hourly paid jobs in my area,where I would get paid for everything I do.
Apparently you find nothing practical about that,even though you yourself have acknowledged that these good hourly paid jobs are scarce, a point which I have already made. But if you can't find any utility in my working for free,in order to make a bigger paycheck,then might be i am wasting my,and your, time.
Keep on having that superior attitude of yours.
I will keep working for free,instead of getting paid for all i do,if working for free gives me a better paycheck.
And If you take the time to actually read and understand what I have posted,you will see where I clearly said if I could find an hourly paid job which pays me something near to what I make working free OTR,I would not hesitate to change jobs.

And whether your politeness is fake or real, I still am not impressed by it, and don't need it, at least not from people with the attitude I perceive you as having.

 

For what it's worth, your both talking (typing) to each other the same way so no offense should be taken on either side. You two are arguing about opionions not facts so that's a moot point too. Neither of you get paid to sleep regardless where you sleep. Neither of you get paid to shower, prepare for work, etc....another moot point. Bottom line you two are working where you want to work and your satisfied with it. There is no need to disparage another persons job just because it's not your job choice. He likes Crete, good for him. You don't like Crete, good for you. He likes over the road, you don't like over the road, good for both of you. Guys it's really not worth the arguing over your personal preferences. We have enough of that in this election year with politicians and don't need it from the people who actually work and pay taxes. Try to respect each others opinions even if it's an opinion you don't agree with. Just sayin...Your both drivers, your both happy at your job. Ya'll should be sharing coffee not jabs. Be Safe Guys (and I mean it).

 

Thank you. You are correct. Somehow I can't let this last one go.

 

I'm not here to impress you at all. Don't be so pompous.

Do you see how easy it is to respond to an entire post?

Drive safe

 

How easy it is to respond to an entire post?
Well since I am not computer saavy,I don't know how to qoute your response ,to address each point,but you know what you said.
Now you say you are not questioning my intelligence,you are only questioning my thought process,when I think that I have been clear to explain why I work for free. Sounds like by questioning my "thought process" you are indeed questioning my intelligence And speaking of questions you have skirted,I asked you if
(1) I should give up working for a junk OTR company ,to earn a smaller paycheck,just for the "privilege" of being able to say I am getting paid for everything I do.,
and I asked you (2) If I should quit my junk OTR job,while not yet having an hourly paid job,just so i can have the "privilege" of saying I am not working for free.
Simple yes or no would suffice.
Go back and look at the responses you gave and decide for yourself if you actually answered the questions,.
You claim to not be questioning my intelligence when I work for free.
Well whether you are questioning my intelligence,or merely questioning my thought process,as if there is a difference, let me be clear,I AM questioning YOUR intelligence,if you can't understand the better satisfaction that I get from taking home a substantially larger paycheck,working the junk oTR job that I have,than working for the low paying hourly paid job that I left nearly 5 years ago ,to go over the road.

In the 11th line of your reply to me,in the same sentence,you claim at one and the same time to not have a problem with my working for free,yet you also claim to have a problem with me working for free.
Since you are of the opinion that my thought process is questionable,could you please explain to me how you seem to have conflicting opinions on the same thing?
In the same sentence,you also claim to wonder how much more I could be making if I were paid for everything I do.
Well I don't wonder about that.What use would that be to me?
It is what it is.I don't have the time to be daydreaming about an ideal world. I'm too busy dealing with the reality that exists.
Since I have certain tangible things in life I want to accomplish and acquire,and not some social or political agenda,then I can afford to,and am quite content to work for free for a junk OTR company,instead of for a hourly paid company where I get paid for everything.
If you want something to wonder about,do not wonder about how much less I COULD be making earning,getting paid by the hour,but how much less i WAS making,getting paid by the hour,than I am making now that I am working for free at a junk OTR company,not to mention how much slower it was helping me achieve my goals,since you seem so concerned about what my goals are.
And as for me calling the company I work for a junk company,you do realize i was only being sarcastic,and was just using the description you initially used,don't you?
Next time i will use quotation marks so that it will be clearer.


And as for being pompous,go and read pages 181-186 of everrtrucker's thread on his time with crete.
It will open your eyes.

And if you did not put your replies to my posts in the body of my posts,it would be easier for me to respond directly to each point you make.Then it would not seem to you like I am picking and choosing what I respond to.
And even if you feel that I am only picking and choosing what to reply to,then deal with what I "pick and choose" to respond to.

Look, you seem to have appointed yourself the decider on what truck drivers should and must want,and that is to be paid for all they do at their jobs. That ,too you,seems to be the ultimate consideration, and by your own words, you question their "thought process" if they take jobs where they are not compensated for every single thing they do. Fine.

I ,decide that I should want a more attractive paycheck (excluding doing anything illegal),even if it means doing some work that I am not compensated for.

Somebody's understander is broken.

If it somehow offends you,as i get the impression that it does, that I ,and not you will decide what I seek out of this job ,then that is your issue, but "thanks" for your "concern".

I really am wasting my time.
Feel free to not let this one go either.

I'm off to do my pre-trip, for which I must log 15 minutes,but for which I will not get paid.
Ideally, I would want to get paid for it,but I wont.
The money deposited to my account this past thursday,which is more than i was earning getting paid for all i did, eases the pain of my working for free though,if even just barely.
And it never ends,for I will be fuelling the company's truck today,for free. And I'll have to do it all over again tomorrow.
My thought process really is flawed,with my "sacrificing" getting paid for all I do for this bigger paycheck at this junk OTR company which is exploiting me.

 

Fact,I earn more at my junk OTR job,where I am being exploited,than I was at my hourly paid job,where i was compensated for everything I did.
And yes,I am being sarcastic when i say junk OTR job,where I'm being exploited.

And to be clear,I am indifferent to working at Crete.I neither like nor dislike crete.
I tolerate them,as I tolerate all my employers,as long as they reasonably provide me with what i want/need.
While not one to jump from job to job,I am not averse to changing employers if I think is will be to my benefit.
An employer is not someone I like or dislike.I like driving a truck,but that is independent of whose name is on the door of that truck.
I save my love and like for friends and family.

One can hold whatever opinion one wants,but I am not obliged to respect an opinion if in my estimation that opinion is questioning my intelligence,or "thought process",as some might
put it,when I decide for myself,as an adult,what I want,instead of allowing somebody else to decide for me what i should want.

 

Not giving the respect that one expects to receive says a lot about an individual. Trouble is none of it is good.

 

I have found the same to be true. I also find the $20,000 tax break from claiming per diem really helps me save money for our retirement. I will be retiring in 10-12 years and Crete has one of the best packages available to help me achieve that.