Driving the truck during time off

My company also has elogs but we have an off duty driving option use can log on for up to 2 hours of personal use.

 

New logbooks coming with a new line added........."Off duty driving"

 

A company can approve you to do anything, but if you violate HOS, and dot can see it on the elog, it'll be written on your inspection report. You'll receive CSA points if it's after the fact, meaning days later.

For example... You drop at a shipper with an hour left on your 14 hour clock. It takes 2 hours for them to unload you, and you're out of hours. The receiver doesn't allow trucks to take a ten on their property, so you have to leave. You send in a message saying such to your company, and they say to find a safe place to park. In doing so, you violate your HOS. Yes, the company gave you permission to get a HOS violation, yet you still violated your HOS in the eyes of DOT. From what I understand, some electronic logs have a line 5 for this case, but ours don't

It's not wise to let a DOT officer to find out you have a used paper log, along with your electronic log.

 

To my understanding, yes if you stay in the same municipality.

But you can try the, "...shipper kicked me off the property even though I told them I was out of hours officer. I am going to the nearest safe haven parking that I know of." Even flag it as that on your paper logs before moving.

Had a guy at KLLM show up at shipper with 5.5 hours left in day. They took 8 hours to load him. (reefer service of course) Then kicked him off the property! It was his second day with a new truck that had e-logs and the dang thing kept beeping at him (out of hours beep notification) the whole way to the nearest parking... hehehehe

Mikeeee

 

It was my understanding you had to keep a paper log regardless.

 

No, when using electronic log books like on a laptop you must have the capability to print out the log book. Some officers are ok with looking at your laptop screen and others want it printed out and handed to them.

Running two log books is like masterbating on a airplane, it's frowned upon

 

okay that what i did i just went too truckstop after i got unloaded and told my boss were i was going and wait for preplan and he was kewl with that, but that was on paper, now with e-logs if im out of hours and i move the truck i'm screwed then hum, but what if i call a city smokee or someboby like that and escort me too truck stop and sign something, or not a good idea

 

I see. I knew running two actual logbooks was a huge no-no, but was told at the school to keep an actual paper logbook to coincide with the electronic log.

 

Sure. You can use the truck as personal conveyance. Bobtailing is actually the easiest way to prove personal conveyance because you are not pulling a load or in transit to get a load without a trailer.

For those customers that dont want to permit a driver to take his 10 hour break on their property ask them if you can leave the trailer on site. Many times this will be acceptable and makes finding a parking place off site much easier. Return to the customer after your 10 hour break and retrieve your trailer.

For your KLLM friend. Explain to him he could have used the split sleeper berth provision. 8 hours logged in the sleeper berth would have extended his 14 hour work day out by an additional 8 hours and he could have legally continued to work or drive down the road. The key is to match up an extra 2 hours of either off duty or sleeper berth time after he moved the truck and trailer and got to a safe place to park. Just make sure he understands that he doesnt get a full 14 hour work day again until he takes 10 consecutive hours off/sleeper.

It is legal to keep 2 logbooks in the truck in this case. To keep things simple make sure you label the written log book "For Tax Purposes Only." The written log MUST be an exact duplicate of the electronic logs and would be accepted by any LEO doing a paperwork inspection.

 

My employer has absolutely no problem using company vehicles for personal use as long as we do the job and keep them informed. In fact... we kind of consider the company vehicles "ours" and respect them as such.

I don't know how many times our sales reps have taken company vehicles to the casinos or on short vacations and used the company gas card.

Luckily we usually stay within 100 miles of home... so no logs... and the last thing my employer would do is install GPS tracking on vehicles.

Dang... I sure do work for good people