Lumper Fees & Pre-Paid Freight...Are they double dipping?

Its a circle of money receiver pay it to shipper, shipper pay it to broker, broker pay it to driver, driver pay it to lumper, lumper give a part of it to the receiver in order to work there. Now no one has to pay taxes, workmans comp or do any paperwork on employees to unload trucks and everyone can use it as a tax write off

 

Yeah, it goes in one big circle with the consumer ending up absorbing the final costs.

Reminds me of a three stooges episode where they were all fighting. Curly owed Moe a $1. Moe owed Larry a $1 and Larry owed Curly a $1. They weren't happy until they passed the $1 around to each other starting with Curly and ending with Curly. Then they were happy.

 

Nah there no double dipping sometimes the big companies like general mills and nestles put themselves on a prepay status with the lumping services at certain warehouses. What this means is general mills or whoever gets billed from the lumper device after the work is complete and usually the driver just signs a paper verifying that they got unloaded.

 

Jw how many cases where on your truck? And usually floor loads are mixed like crazy and break into a ton of pallets doesn't really matter if boxes are heavy or light.. I always tell a driver who think can get it done faster to go ahead and try. I can get mostly any floor load that comes into my job done in 2-3hrs if I slacking some 4hours max.

Had a driver tell me one time he could do his Truck which was 2200 cases and broke into 165pallets in 45mins to hr max we all told him go ahead and try. He came back 2hours later and only had 20pallets done hired lumper and I finished rest of the load in hr and half..

There not always as easy as you think. There is a lot of easy ones out there but usually the more they charge the more work that needs to be done.

 

i haven't been doing this truck driving thing long enough to know what is reasonable lumber pay but i think my company might had been had today when the receiver/dock manager told me to call my company for a po and give them a comcheck for loading 2 pallets of potato chips approx 100 boxes and i laughed a little when he showed me and i think he might got a little irritated.I had at one time did some swift dollar tree dedicated stuff and they paid me 110.00 dollars to unload a 40,000 pound truck with about 3500 pieces-nice home time but the pay sucked!

 

The majority of the time the lumpers are a scam and a few actually do more harm than good. I lump all my own freight due to damages to my equipment (trailer, bulkheads, and pallet blankets) and the freight. I have witnessed countless lumpers damaging pallets then charging for restacking. Many of the lumper bosses are given free rein on the charges, but a few bigger companies have a set fee depending on the product unloaded (so much per case, so much per pallet made, so much per restack, extra for pin wheeled pallets, and so on and so on). Personally I do not agree with the charges at any of them. I have been known to lump some of my stuff for free due to the fact that I will not pay huge amounts for little work and sit there for hours. The lumper at Sysco in Baraboo, WI wanted $195 to unload 8 pallets of styrofoam products that broke down to 19 pallets. I did this on myself, informed the broker of the lumper scam, and requested $80 since it only took me 30 mins. He gladly paid and now we get more of his LTL freight cause of our actions on this account. Before anyone says it...he is not pocketing the difference.

 

I like what they did at Dollar General in Missisippi. Was charged $250 to unload. When I asked for a description they said it was for unloading, breakdown, and restacking. This was pallets of bottled water. Maybe I don't understand warehouse procedures but it seemed to me that the pallet they arrived on was just fine as no separation seemed necessary. Anyhow, much to my amazement, the lumper service did nothing but forklift the pallets off the trailer and line them up on the dock. Then DG employees with different equipment forklifted them off into the warehouse and stacked them on shelves with dozens of other pallets of bottled water that were identical. Now, am I missing something? Or was I not supposed to see that?

 

All these lumper fee's
Is an extortion raquet that "Tony Saprano" wished he came up with.

 

Lumpers are a joke...everywhere I have gone and had to pay lump fees (especially when your not allowed to unload your truck yourself) are usually the slowest places to get unloaded from...the docks that I don't have to pay lumpers are usually pretty quick...but then again thats hit and miss too.....I really hate paying lumpers and then spending 6 hours in the dock just to get unloaded...

 

so do you guys pay cash for these services? that's a lot of money to be carrying around. is it true if you lump your own truck you get paid? sounds like a good way to get exercise and make some dough.