Time on pretrip?

i hope you do put your pre trip on the log book/ reqired pre trip and post trip every day.

 

I log 15 minutes for the pretrip every day. On the pretrip, I check fluids, lights, tires / rims, air / electrical connections and coupling.
At the end of my day, I do a rather more in depth post trip but I do it on my time, that is, I don't log my post trip on line 4.
I usually start my day an hour or more before daylight and try to stop in early afternoon so there's a lot more light to see things like broken frame members or welds.
Some days I may be hooked to 3 or 4 different trailers and when I hook to a different trailer I log however long it takes to do the hook and perform what I was taught to log as a "Trailer Integrity Verification", or TIV. Basically, a pretrip on the trailer. That could be just a company title, but I'm told it came about after 9/11 as a homeland security measure.
Am I at risk by not logging time for the post trip inspection? I hope not, depending on the road conditions I encountered that day, the post trip can take a while. The rougher the ride has been, the more closely I inspect suspension and drive train components.

 

I hope the DOT doesn't catch up to you my friend, Because if they want to they can make you prove you can do a pre/post trip in the time you log..And unless you have been studying for a state test you will not pass(i don't think many of us would pass, for that mater.
Be safe and log a fifteen min. pre and post trip for every trailer you hook to.. And most definitely log a post trip at the end of the day....

 

Am I understanding this correctly? Any work done by a mechanic needs to be logged? Where and how will you log it? If you are a company driver will you get something stating what was done on that truck so you can keep it for your own records?

Hubby is stuck in Charlotte, NC waiting on a syncronizer. (sp?) Apparently the previous driver that it was assigned to this truck did not alert the company to this and of course the hubby just thought he was grinding gears until he noticed the grinding started before he even shifted from 4th to 5th gear or he woulda turned it around before leaving the terminal.

And...since I'm asking, since he has been boarded up in a motel for 2 nights can he document this as a 34-hour restart? (He was within a couple hours of his 14 hours due to paperwork and drug test done at the terminal that put him On-duty for 5 1/2 hours.) I told him I thought so but would get "experienced" advice first and let him know.

I try to be the good wife and learn as much as possible so I can help him when needed....especially with the logs as they can get a bit tricky.

 

any contiguous time not on line 3 or 4 counts toward a 34 hour reset.

So, if he handed the truck to the mechanic at, say, noon on Thursday, he would have finished his 34 at 22:00 Friday. Spending 2 nights in a motel would work for a 34, so long as - of course - he's off duty for 34 hours in a row.

Of course, technically speaking, any work he does for the company - and that would include answering mechanic questions - should go on line 4, and result in restarting the 34 hour count-down.

Logging mechanical work would be on the VIR or in the comments section of the log, I'd think. Don't see anything ... aha!

Have hubbybubby take a look at FMCSR 396.11(c) - it's on page 607 of version 347 (all regs in existence on or before Dec 17, 2007)

 

Thanks Lurch! He fell into the 34 hr restart and also documented the work to his truck.

 

I worked for 1 company that paid us a half hour for a pretrip.
Heaven help you though if you missed something.

 

As a driver/trainer working for a private carrier that pulled mostly tanks, I was "volunteered" to do a pre-trip as a "refresher" for one of our safety meetings.
A newly promoted, very ambitious, dispatcher who had never held a CDL had a special interest in this, as he had a problem paying anyone for a 30 minute pre-trip.
Prior to the safety meeting, I was told to go through the inspection the same as I would with a "new hire", explaining as I went along, what I was looking for, and answering any questions. From start to finish, including the Q&A during the inspection, took 19 minutes; the only paperwork done, was my verifying the previous post trip noted no problems. I also purposely omitted two things, as a "test", windshield wipers, and the horns, and we had a lively discussion about that, within the 19 minutes. (if you can believe, most noted the failure to check the wipers, but no one caught the horns.
It did convince "Mr. Ambition" that for some people 15 minutes is enough, others take longer. (he had secretly timed several drivers who went back into the driver's room to do their paperwork), and tacked that onto what he felt would have been close to a 15 minute inspection without the Q&A at the meeting.

 

Pre trip in the book states that a pre trip is to take as long as the driver needs to feel safe to operate the vehicle. So on a paper log obviously you have to show 15 minutes but on a real time elog you only have to show 1 or 2 minute pre trip.

 

are we talking paper or e-logs