Can you help me with a problem the Dealer can't diagnose?

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  1. Pmracing

    Pmracing Road Train Member

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    I drive '10 Cascadia with a DD15 (if that matters) with about 330K miles on it.

    Many months ago I noticed a clunking in the front end when braking under a heavy load. It could be heard and felt. It felt like it was in the left front. I thought it was suspension. The dealer looked it over and "could not duplicate". So I drove it for them and got it to make the noise bobtailing in their parking lot. I did not have a loaded trailer at my disposal. They looked it over again and said, "Brakes are fine, spring is soft but fine. Maybe that is it?" So I drive it extra careful leaving double room in front, slower than normal on curves, etc...

    Now there is another clunk about three times as bad which sound/feels like it is in the right front. But this time, as it clunks, it is also jerking the steering wheel to the right.

    Road breakdown said to take it to our yard. There is a service center there. The service boss says, "Ya, freightliner has a lifetime lubricated S-cam shaft in the front." We both laugh at that. He says that sometimes the shaft will stick then suddenly release after more pressure is applied.

    So they take it all apart and find (or say) that the shafts are rotating properly....

    I am going to ask to have it sent it to the dealer again to look at, while I still have a loaner truck. But I don't have much respect for any of the dealer repair centers that I have visited. I am sure there are some good ones somewhere...

    So has anyone had this problem, or a possible diagnosis?

    Thanks in advance, I don't want to drive a truck that has a suspension or brakes clunking! Especially on the steers!

    Mikeeee
     
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  3. Crusty

    Crusty <b>Just Plain Crusty</b>

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    Bad joint. Tie rod ends or drag link.
     
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  4. Superhauler

    Superhauler TEACHER OF MEN

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    just went through this with mine found the s cam had a flat spot that would hang up every once in a while.
     
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  5. skellr

    skellr Road Train Member

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    The 12 that I drive pulls similar shenanigans. It might be going in again soon, hopefully a different shop will know.
     
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  6. dave26027

    dave26027 Road Train Member

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    I have a similar problem in an '05 Columbia. S-cams.

    (Real trucks don't have this problem).
     
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  7. truckmechanic

    truckmechanic Medium Load Member

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    Check all the spring hanger bushings king pins drag link also check to make sure drums are centered and not moving while braking in my opinion hub piloted wheels are junk it is worth the money for the try balence centering pins.you should have them pull the wheels and drums and make sure the spider has not worked loose I've seen that happen a few times
     
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  8. Pablo-UA

    Pablo-UA Road Train Member

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    really the it may r'n'p clunck
     
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  9. BCR

    BCR Bobtail Member

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    Flat spots on S cam but more than likely flat spots on rollers that are not turning free in brake shoe. I have seen a thick buildup of brake dust on the S part of the cam do it also. I have used a gasket buffer on an angle grinder to clean off cams and replace rollers.

    To duplicate, release tractor park brake and depress foot valve to floor, it should do it then with a loud pop.

    Oh, and they will not see the flat spots on the roller without removing it. It will not jump up and tell them, "hey I'm flat over here!" It takes someone who gives a #### enough to give it a close inspection.
     
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  10. Pablo-UA

    Pablo-UA Road Train Member

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    really, IMHO drum brakes with S-cams are all from stone age, now disk brakes got all kid's desearses forgoten, new calipers are top mounted (no lost pads and damaged synchnized pistons) and it is amaizing less pain with disk brakes now.

    All these advances and improved drum brakes are not good enougnt, more complicated design and more cluncs, uneven wear and other issues when something goes wrong!!!!!
     
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  11. Pmracing

    Pmracing Road Train Member

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    I still gave you a thanks for that... but I didn't quite understand it. Hehehehe

    That may be my real diagnosis problem. I wonder if I can rent garage time somewhere... To "git er done" myself!

    Mikeeee
     
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