Dear Plus1! I want to break up with you....

Discussion in 'Swift' started by fr8monkey, Apr 16, 2012.

  1. capthook

    capthook Light Load Member

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    Moose-
    I turn down +1 loads all the time and give times I can do them.
    They come back 1 min later with plan adjusted message.

    I have never heard anything about 'turned down load record'
    but you have mentioned it several times.
    Never heard it from anyone else either.
    Guess you 've got a hard ### DM??
    Please explain.
     
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  3. Moosetek13

    Moosetek13 Road Train Member

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    A 'hard ### DM'?

    Not so. We get along just fine.

    He simply quotes numbers to me with each monthly review.
    He is always hardest on me about my idle times.
    But at the end of the review he has always said, 'good job, keep it up'.

    As for the 'load turndown rate', it wasn't even mentioned this time.
    But is has been the past few times.

    I have mentioned it because it is a stat that can be used against you, if they choose to.
    Since it has been brought up to me several times, I thought to mention it in several posts.

    I have also made a point of it because of Plus-1 scheduling.
    Plus-1 wants to run you into the ground, until you have to take a 34 reset. And then it will try to schedule you to the minute of that 34.

    And every time you turn down a load with new times, and Plus-1 kicks it back to you accepting those times - it still counts as a load turndown even if you take the load.
    That's not right, IMO.


    It is not my DM quoting numbers to me that stresses me, it is the Plus-1 way too tight scheduling.

    That, and the fact that, if they decide that they would rather have a rookie getting paid .25 per mile doing my job - they can simply refer back to things like a high load turndown rate to terminate me.
     
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  4. TooGroovy

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    What an interesting discussion, I guess it will all come down to see what will happen -- and if ANYTHING will happen, for using Mac22, if rescheduling turns out to READ like a turn down, but SWIFT management does not SEE IT as such and count it as such --> then, PLUS1 solved the "bad DM nightmare" and it is great!! If not, it may take a lot of sit downs and grief to make management not see rescheduling that way.
    BUT, it sounds like drivers are getting more loads and more miles and don't have to depend on somebody to give it to them <--- is that a fair assumption?
     
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  5. fr8monkey

    fr8monkey Road Train Member

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    Yeah...it is an interesting discussion and program...would love to see the results that swift has thus far and also to see if those that do have more turndowns or changes the times then get less offers,but there are very few people on this forum to draw any conclusions,but you know Swift has to be measuring it? To me the biggest issue is that they hide the real times! As a "business partner" and l/op I really would like to see ALL the load info...that by far is my biggest problem with Plus1! I feel like i am treated like a child and being told by a program that i "should" be able to run the load in a certain amount of time and also "told" by that same program when to pu and del.......welll I am not a child,and don't need to report via mac 22 to "daddy" that i might be late when in fact it is well within the real load parameters...:biggrin_25513:

    HEY SWIFT! STOP HIDING THE REAL PU AND DEL TIMES FROM YOUR L/OPS AND LET US RUN OUR TRUCKS,BUSINESSES,AND MANAGE OUR TIME LIKE ADULTS!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  6. TooGroovy

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    Do you think that they don't show the REAL times because of some kind of idea of "optimization" As in, somebody in the STATISTICS world of logistics thinks that at the end of the year there will be .oooo3% more miles per rubber spent on the re thread tires if they don't tell you?
     
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  7. fr8monkey

    fr8monkey Road Train Member

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    yEAH IT IS ABOUT OPTIMIZATION.....but anything less then 5% more utilization per truck doesn't seem worth it to me....I always assumed that Swift had more trucks available then they needed so they could always have a truck available to service customer needs and keep the fleet at 2200 miles or so....But as a public co. now things like revenue per truck,utilization of equipment,on time percentage,and always slowly increasing use per truck,while being more efficient per truck (mpg) is probably what is behind plus1.....then they can market that to new customers,etc,etc....just my humble opinion on it....:biggrin_25511:
     
  8. TimeAgain

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    Swift made it clear at the time Plus1 was introduced . . there was/is a tendency by some drivers to sit and wait until the last minute on p/u and drop windows. It can be as simple as sitting for 4 hours then discovering a flat tire vs hitting the road early and finding the flat, getting it fixed and getting the load delivered on time. A few extra hours x available fleet allows for a lot more loads to be moved. It is a good thing.
     
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  9. Moosetek13

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    I got the windows with my current NLA.
    PU between 04/21 0600 and 04/22 0200.
    Deliver 04/23 0001-2359.
    1st stop delivers 04/23 1930, so I really don't see why the window for the final is 24 hours long.

    It's about 650 miles to the first stop, which is actually farther than the final. I'll have to backtrack to the final.

    My PTA from home time was set to 04/21 1100, so I have lots of extra time on this load.

    Think I'll see if I can deliver to that first stop a bit early.
     
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  10. blsqueak

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    Today have a pplan to pu and you can tell that it is Plus 1. PU at 1800 on 4/21. Deliver on 4/23 @ 0500. You do the math. 960 miles. In a company truck, the driver will have his foot in it the whole way, so that can allow 2 10 hour breaks.
     
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  11. Domandred

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    Had a few of those plus1 plans that had delivery times like that, and customer wasn't even open yet, and a few that delivered at night after they were closed. :biggrin_25510:
     
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