ECOTAZ ECO Fuelsystems Fuel Enhancers - Does it work?

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  1. ECOTAZ

    ECOTAZ Light Load Member

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    So your saying yours is invalid as well?

    So again your saying that all the testers that posted did not know what they were doing. I am just saying that your ECM will show before Idle time and Speeds. The others can post theirs as well.
    You make it sound as if your the first hardcore non-believer that is testing our unit. We have had numerous Shop Foremen that laughed at the "Magic Tube" and after doing emissions test and checking ECM reports and doing their own mileage reports found themselves buying the Magic Tube for their fleets and their own personal vehicles.
    I never said that once you install the ECO that you will never have less mileage if you are in bad weather, your air filter needs cleaning, oil need changing or tires need air.
    That is why the Techs at the truck dealerships tell us that the Best testing is:
    Test it yourself on your truck.
    Test with 3 tanks before and 3 tanks after.
    As many drivers have said you are one in youself with your truck. You know your sweet spots, you know your shifting habits, and you know your cost to operate.
    Install what ever it is you are going to test and run 3 tanks again. Do the Math.
    If you give it a Fair shake You are the only one that will know if it works or not.
    The ECM report is only if you don't believe your numbers, refer to it for idle times and speeds.
    I have had a couple of Drivers that claim they see no reults, and when they look at their ECM Report where their average speed used to be 60, After installation, their average speed is now 67.
    It is not easy to test anything and prove to the public that it does or does not work.

    As this thread has proven here that the arguing and bickering will go on and on and on. We have discovered here that Trucks with to many Mods, Trucks with No Mods, ECM reports, Dynos, The time at which you fuel, Lab tests, Negative Drivers, Positive Drivers, The tires you use, How long, the test is, and Winter Blends versus Summer Blends, Everything has an effect somewhere. So everyone still remains skeptical. Everyone will want to do their own test and prove to themselves.

    Excet those who have tested already for the last 7 months free units and those who have purchased units and decided to keep them. They are still referring it to their freinds and that is the only Satisfaction I have is that if all the BS your pulling here was true everyone that purchased would have sent them back already for their refunds.
    In fact they are now ordering for their RV's, Personal Cars, and their Families vehicles. A couple were so impressed that they became distributors. This tells me that ECO's sell themselves.

    In your case if in fact it does not work, then Drivers that have all your mods and the FASS and the Microblue May want to consider your data before trying an ECO-System since it did not work for you and you knew this way before you tested by your own posts here.

    We have some very interesting tests running as we speak and I will share those here with anyone who is intersted.
     
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  3. MNdriver

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    I don't think it's properly tenderized yet.

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  4. Dice1

    Dice1 Road Train Member

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    That is your testing standard not mine!

    Didn't you ask for their ECM reports before you sent those free units like you did me?

    You should have them to met your own testing standard and be able to post them here to by your own testing standard validate their testing.

    Remember this is your testing standard and not mine.

    You keep blowing smoke about 14 testers that got them free....where are they?

    Only see 2 or 3 around lately with one of those still skeptical?
     
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    Your welcome and guys like you are the reason I went ahead with testing of this device.

    I just wished it had turned out better for all of us.
     
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    i am running all copper lines this weekend, fuel and air and putting on copper fuel tanks. with copper air lines the brakes should work faster when i try to slow down the more powerful truck
     
  7. ECOTAZ

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    It turned out great for most. And if you go back to the beginning of the thread you can see where alot more than 3 or 4 posted good results. They did their test posted and went on with their business. A lot of them are the ones that have bought more units for other trucks and their personal vehicles. They just do not want to bore everyone posting the same thing over and over and over. They have other things more important to do than to convince you to save money by repeating themselves over and over. If your afraid to show your ECM report you do not need to get bent out of shape again, just say No I will not show it. I can't figure out what you could possibly be hiding there. I'm just glad I have good consultants to work with. The testing may have not been good for you since you have so many mods on your truck, Lets face it, could it be the Micro Blue wearing out? could it be the FASS not working proprerly, or maybe your fueling in the evenings now with expanded diesel where before you did the mornings with condensed diesel? I believe one of your guys brought that up. Dice you can print out your ECM report and check it out yourself. If it looks good Post it! if it looks bad - well just keep on ranting.
    PS. I did not set the standars for any testing. If you will read from the beggining I never told anyone here how to do their test. That's why I asked for professional Owner/Operators to test. They know what they are doing.
    I have not received any systems back from the free ones or the over 30 units that were purchased back 5 months ago.
     
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    SHC Spoiled Rotten Brat O/O

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    All that copper is going to double the value of your truck too :biggrin_25523:
     
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    Goodluck. Copper is expensive these days. Someone my steal the tanks so put alarm sensors on them since copper is a Hot commodity!
    Evidently you did not figure the cost, ROI is not going to be as good as the ECO's at 30 days or less.
     
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  10. Hammer166

    Hammer166 Crusty Information Officer

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    Ok, the rework KingQ asked for, under the assumption that Dice is already running a lower BSFC number. I'll put the new numbers in red. And assume Dice is already running .290 lbs/hp*hr instead of .300 lbs/hp*hr.

     
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  11. wimp

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    It seems to me to be in poor taste to hold Dice to a different standard than positive results testers and in even poorer taste to suggest that when he refuses to allow you to hold him to a different standard that he's hiding something.

    Again, please hold your positive results testers to the same standards as the negative results testers. Why aren't you suggesting that some of the positive results could be the result of things other than the eco? i.e. switching to synthetic, changing air filters, the way they fuel, etc.

    It seems you believe this last statement only holds true for testers that are telling you things you want to hear.
     
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