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Discussion in 'Canadian Truckers Forum' started by Stefan, Mar 5, 2011.

Do you think Canada should import foreign drivers?

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    Yes

    20 vote(s)
    21.1%
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    No

    76 vote(s)
    80.0%
  1. Albert777

    Albert777 Bobtail Member

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    the recommendation were written in English signed by lowyer?

    thanks.
     
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  3. Stefan

    Stefan Bobtail Member

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    Everything is written in English, of course!
    None of it was signed by lawyer of any kind and I don't see why would that be required? If you are trying to immigrate to Canada, just know that you do NOT need any immigration lawyers or immigration consultants or whatever the therm they will use to get your money for nothing!
    Skip the agencies!
    Skip the agencies!
    Skip the agencies!
    Skip the agencies!
    Skip the agencies!
    Skip the agencies!
    What else was I gonna say...oh right, skip the agencies!
    All you need for immigration can be gathered without any agencies or immigration consultants or lawyers or whatever. The only website you need to focus on is www.cic.gc.ca and you will find ALL you need in there. Except for the job offer and the LMO. Your 'employer' has to apply for the LMO in HRSDC. And you need to find someone to offer you a job in Canada - focus on getting that ONLY for now.

    Recommendation were stamped and signed by the companies.

    The only place where you'll need a lawyer's signature (or judge's, or officer's, or you will have to check who can verify this depending on your country of residence) is same place you will need apostille - when verifying that the document translated is genuine and that translation fits the content, BUT that is required only for some countries and not in all of them. Have that checked, it's not the same everywhere.
     
  4. Albert777

    Albert777 Bobtail Member

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  5. lucky07

    lucky07 Light Load Member

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    Disclaimer (as to not get flamed): This is concerning the poll and not the OPs prospects, by all means if your willing to put the time and the effort in go for it.

    No and here's why. For me anyways.

    There are plenty of people like me here who are trying to get into the industry and are having a hard time because of insurance companies perspectives on what makes a driver "high risk". The system is corrupt, I'm paying 6 times what most other are paying for insurance and this all due to one ... yes ONE ticket. The only other thing is I was t-boned in my car, me being 19 at the time who do you think the cop blamed? ... rhetorical question as they obviously weren't going to blame the 45 year old woman who destroyed my car. Went to court and WON but I'm still paying massively high premiums for it.

    Instead of importing drivers from other countries to fill the jobs (new licence here = clean abstract ... fun fun) the insurance companies should be re-tuned. This multi billion dollar industry where the money can't even be invested in creating a cleaner safer product or whatever like oil companies and car manufacturers could do for example. Its straight banked profit and the cops have their hand in it with trumped up charges, lies and kangaroo traffic courts that are nothing but a cash cow which the insurance companies just love BTW. Clean that up and you will have all the good drivers you could imagine available for hiring. We all know a good portion of the decision on who gets hired and who doesn't is the insurance companies. Lots of good drivers out there who get screwed. Just because your deemed "high risk" doesn't mean you are.

    Alas, the dream of a better world where common sense is a tad more present and corruption a might less rampant is nothing but that ... a dream.
     
    Last edited: Jan 17, 2012
  6. Stefan

    Stefan Bobtail Member

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    Hello there, and thanks for sharing your opinion :) There is one thing I'd like to point out to you: I don't know a thing about the insurance companies in Canada or how they work, BUT what I DO know is that my 'employer' will have to pay 8 times the amount he'd normally be paying for insurance because of me, bear that in mind. Here is a reason: my abstract is clean, I have no tickets, never made an offense, nothing at all, ever. Doesn't get more perfect than this. BUT since I'm from another country, that seems to be the problem for them.
    I'm not saying that you or anyone marked as a "high risk" is actually risk to traffic. One thing I don't uderstand - why are my driving skills less worth or why am I a higher risk? I'd love to hear that from the insurance companies, but it's really none of my business nor should I interfere or question the system.

    You see, I don't know anything about you, your past or origin, but I hardly disagree with what you wrote. Not that I will turn this thread into discussion about it. :biggrin_25520:
     
  7. lucky07

    lucky07 Light Load Member

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    Because it justifies why they're making your premiums absurdly expensive. Your skills are what they are, they are worth no less than anyone else who has those same skills. A technicality that is entirely based in the paper world is what makes you "high risk" because in that world, those skills you have, well they are trumped by (insert random BS justification here).

    In the material world high risk is what the actual odds are of them having to pay for you screwing up ... in that world they make no money. I've had this exact discussion with my insurance broker and not a single word of what I said could be argued and she knew it.

    I drive no more than 10 over (absolute max) the limit, I leave lots of space between me and others, adjust speed to road conditions, I'm aware of whats around me, have never been in an at fault accident, never ditched my truck. With that in mind every time I have someone rip by me at 120km/h on the highway in a snowstorm I'd say 90 percent of the time it's some young girl in a chevy cavalier or a civic just bootin' her, same for cars in the ditch. I have a 2002 Toyota tundra V6 2WD single cab for which I pay 260$ per month for insurance (3200$ per annum and that's a deal in ontario believe it or not) ... my girlfriend with two at fault accidents pays 100$ per month/1200 a year. Her insurance company doesn't want anything to do with me, already tried.

    I'm 23, I have a wang, I'm white and I'm "poor" that's why I pay more plain and simple and that isn't going to change, the only thing I can do to bring my insurance down is get old but my time machine broke and I can't find a replacement PanWatt flux capacitor so I guess I'll just have to wait.

    My blood pressure just went up, no more insurance company talk. lol
     
  8. lostNfound

    lostNfound Road Train Member

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    Oops... so did your premiums.





    :biggrin_25523:
     
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  9. Stefan

    Stefan Bobtail Member

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    HRSDC called my employer today - the LMO was negative :biggrin_25513: we will re-apply, and I will keep you updated when we do..
     
  10. Stefan

    Stefan Bobtail Member

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    Hello everyone, as I said I'd update the process for those interested, my employer applied for LMO again on 23rd April. As soon as I get any new info now how that's going, I'll post.
    The reason previous LMO was denied is because when applying for an LMO (http://www.servicecanada.gc.ca/eforms/forms/hrsdc-emp5512(2011-09-003)e.pdf) you have to check every one of those boxes after pt.77; what that means is your employer HAS to pay for everything. And what that means is smaller companies can't afford it, because it's too much.
    Also, just a not for all the other drivers seeking employment from outside of Canada, just know that you might not be able to drive on your international driving licence, and you have to check that with Ministry of Transportation.
    As promised before, I will make a new thread and explain the whole process with everything you need to know about getting to drive in Canada, but not at this moment as I'm busy. Anyways, hope I'll get a positive LMO this time :)
    And a quick question for you all.. Are there any kind of limits on operating hours, rest hours and speed limits for trucks in Canada? Or does that differ for every province?
     
  11. cariboo_kid

    cariboo_kid Medium Load Member

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    There are federal regulations for hours of service for drivers in companies that work in more than one province, and provincial regs for companies that never leave their home province. Speed limits for trucks will be posted on the highway in areas where they are different than for the rest of the traffic
     
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