Fuel Economy Scams

I found something that increases lubriicity higher than any other product off the shelf and it costs absolutely nothing.... biodiesel. Available at most pumps (at least in the midwest) for no more price than straight petro diesel. A simple 2% blend will raise lubricity to pre low sulfur diesel levels.

 

I use biodeisel whenever I'm able to find it, my mech told me it cleans out my engine better than fuel additives and such, just wish I could find it in more places.

BTW, anyone know where on the east coast they sale biodeisel other than exit 173 on I-81 in Va.?

 

I wonder if dice will keep claiming he gets 10mpg loaded ?? His "claims and stories" certainly change a lot.....

 

I have tested the eco magic tube and it cost me a loss of fuel mileage. I will call it a bigger more expensive gimmick than the turbo 3000.

 

1.iam 1 of the testers from the eco for me works good and for plenty other testers and drivers,2.you have 90 days money back garantie ,you loose max you time for the instalation nothing more.3.for me looks this tread strange,you talk in a other tread from the eco very bad,and after when the tread is closed from the admin you open a other and talking the same bad like before for me looks this like this is a game from 3or4 peoples to talk bad about a product ,this is only my opinion nothing more:

 

The testers last post in that thread was 2 weeks ago & supposedly he's now checking for proper bearing installation and will report back. I'm now watching that thread to see where it goes. Thx for the link!

Dice, any idea if that tester got the polishing done or just the coating? Also do you know what the longevity of the coating is? Thanks!

 

I run a 50/50 mix of Power Service White and the Walmart 2 cycle oil. I put it in a 100 gal Power Service bottle and mix it that way, 1 in each tank. I tried the same with Power Service Silver/ 2 cycle oil and didn't get as good of results.

Best fuel milage jump was new air filters and Donaldson hi-Flow mufflers.

 

I have now. Thanks, great reading! I just wish I'd known about MB before I did my inframe.

 

I was paying close attention then forgot about it till earlier today. The main reason is the fact that Paul put these Micro Blue bearings on his trucks without driver knowledge. To me that is the best way to test it.

I would also like to know the life of Micro blue. If it's something that lasts a long time and can be put on the gears, that alone might make it worth getting?

@ Dice, you left out a little two letter word in that quote you posted about..... It was IF. Now I'll coppy and paste the whole quote so everyone knows what Paul really said... Actually I will post a few quotes so everyone will understand what all was said. To me it seemed as though Craig of Micro Blue and a few others were grasping for straws as to why there was no gain in fuel mileage.....

Permalink Reply by Paul McGraw on April 15, 2012 at 6:49pm
It has now been 6 months since I installed MB bearing on two trucks and two trailers. I would like to say that they saved me a bunch of money, but they didn't. During the first month after installation, they seemed to help. After the first month, no difference. This equipment is being driven by employees, who did not even know about the bearings, so no pyschological effect. They always drive at the governed limit of 64 mph. None of the equipment showed any improvement in MPG after the first month. My experiment with MB is now over. No further updates are planned.

Reply by Craig/MicroBlue on April 16, 2012 at 9:41am
Looking at our records, I see that you ordered the Con-Met bearing sets for your tractor. We have found two disturbing problems with these hubs after the bearings are canned. One, the used spacer simply cannot be re-used. In use, the spindle flex compacts them, mushrooming the ends and effectively makes them shorter. To the tune of .002" to over .005". If they're put back in, there will be no end-play and will wind up having pre-load, which will kill any gains. Two, when a new spacer is used, it too, is too tight. They come that way to compensate for the loosening that happens during break in. They told me at the show that they'll be in the -.001" to +.001" from the factory. We have found that there is far more spindle flex going on than anybody realized and that's why the guys that re-adjusted the bearings to .004" end play saw mileage gains.
The same goes for trailers. As I recall, you had some over-tightened issues with the first trailer install and they ran hot. We have found that trailer hubs need to be set up close to .004" because of spindle flex induced bearing bind. We have seen this a few times so far, but all cleared up after re-adjustment. Maybe you should check and verify the end play on the hubs and report back. You know what they say, its all in the details.

Those are only two quotes that seemed important. A few afterward were about a dial indicator to install the Micro Blue bearings.... Yeah sorry but I just don't really get that unless Micro Blue bearings don't seat in like regular bearings? Anyone who's ever done bearings knows what I'm talking about.

Now on to the quote that Dice posted but left a word out....

Reply by Paul McGraw on April 17, 2012 at 8:58am
Me too! This sounds like it could be the answer. It could also explain why the fuel savings for me went away after about a month. After the truck has been on the road for a month, enough spindle flex could have occured to reduce the space and squeeze the bearings. It makes sense. I am going to call and order one of the gauges. If this works, I will certainly post the results AND add MB bearings to more trucks.

"If this works" is the key phrase.

Now after reading this post again I just noticed something that doesn't make a lot of sense to me..... Why would the fuel savings go away after a month? Come to think of it, they should've gotten better as the bearings seated in, right?

Now with allt his being said, I'll be the first to say that if Micro Blueing a set of gears and bearings will make them last even longer than they do know, that would be a good thing. But I really don't think anyone can say for sure as of yet?

I'm sure Dice will have Craig come along shortly to help explain all this to us.