2 hour off duty time

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by revelation1911, May 24, 2012.

  1. revelation1911

    revelation1911 Heavy Load Member

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    With the new HOS can the 2 hour off duty in a moving CMV in paseneger seat be taken before
    8 hours in sleeper berth be logged same if you will be off duty for next 8 hours and not in
    a sleeper berth? I can't find this addressed in the guidance section.
    Has anyone addressed this before?
     
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  3. Crusty

    Crusty <b>Just Plain Crusty</b>

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    It's in 'the book'
     
  4. monkeypuncher

    monkeypuncher Medium Load Member

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    Passenger seat is on duty not driving.
     
  5. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    That would be why he said

     
  6. monkeypuncher

    monkeypuncher Medium Load Member

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    Did they make a change to this particular rule? I haven't seen them yet.
     
  7. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    On Duty time now. Does not include any time resting in a parked vehicle (also applies to passenger-carrying drivers). In a moving property-carrying CMV, does not include up to 2 hours in passenger seat immediately before or after 8 consecutive hours in sleeper-berth.
    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/topics/hos/index.htm
     
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  8. ramkatral

    ramkatral Heavy Load Member

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    Simplified answer to your question:

    Yes.

    That was easy.
     
  9. Scalemaster

    Scalemaster Heavy Load Member

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    No.

    The new 2 hours off-duty in the passenger seat ONLY applies "immediately before or after a period of at least 8 consecutive hours in the sleeper berth."

    The change was to facilitate team operations.

    However, time spent "resting in or on a parked vehicle", regardless of exactly where that is, can be off-duty.
     
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  10. Rat

    Rat Road Train Member

    Tell you what, as long as you don't get worn out and it does not affect your rest and you don, have anything linking you to your activity or time stamped materials linking you to your activity, log it as you wish. Simple as that. Unless you get pulled over and DOTed and you are sitting in the passenger seat at the time and logged elsewere then no one really cares.

    The most important thing is to get the rest you need. Remember that you might not need as much as others or you may need more then others. Only you know how much rest you actually need. And as long as everything else matches up then do as you wish.
     
  11. revelation1911

    revelation1911 Heavy Load Member

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    Now if you went off duty at the end of the two hours?ie: as in went home, parked the truck or any activity that is considered off duty
    would it be the same as sleeper berth? I have seen the wording off-duty and sleeper berth used interchangably in other sections.

    Here's an example two drivers in a truck. Driver 1 drives his eleven hours then driver 2 takes over and drives two hours and the truck is parked after that for 8 or 10 hours. Can driver 1 log the two hours riding as off duty? Can driver 2 log the first two hours off duty?
    I would think so, but have never heard of this being addressed as this is such a new rule change. Logging that way would preserve two hours for driver 1 and 2 on their 70.
     
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