Why CSA 2010 and E-Logs are a good thing.

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Theophilus, Nov 6, 2011.

  1. fireba11

    fireba11 Heavy Load Member

    864
    541
    Jul 30, 2007
    Tracy City, TN
    0
    Those of you who are hoping for e-logs......Just wait till you run out of hours and your 30 miles from home! see how you like them then.

    Outlaw truckers are the ones who built this business! They will never go away! Those of you wishing they would are just sad candy ### truckers.
     
  2. Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  3. otherhalftw

    otherhalftw R.I.P.

    13,081
    45,332
    Nov 18, 2008
    CA...gold discovery foothills
    0
    that's easily remedied...simple thing called "thinking ahead"! If you know (or suspect) you will not have the legal hours to get to home....back off and take a break with a split sleeper, or just stop and take a full 10 outside of the close proximity to home so you won't be tempted to run "outlaw".

    While in your mind, they may have "built this business"...what they have done is caused this HOS petty rules to be needed. I grew up around truckers, somehow they all managed to run legal! Maybe it was because they had respect for rules and regulations instead of being of the mindset to always push to see what they could get away with!
     
  4. Cowpie1

    Cowpie1 Road Train Member

    5,569
    4,651
    Nov 25, 2008
    Kellogg, IA
    0
    Come on... you can come up with something harder than that can't you? You are making this too easy! I am on E-logs. I have had the situation you mention a couple of times. Easy. Drop the trailer (I have prearranged several locations in a 60 mile radius of me I can drop a trailer at), then go to OFF DUTY DRIVING and drive on home. No foul. If the trailer is empty and I am not going to get a load, then that also is a no brainer... just go to OFF DUTY DRIVING and take truck and trailer both home. No different that what someone can legally do on paper now.

    Yes, it is legal to drive a commercial truck OFF DUTY as long as you are not heading somewhere under dispatch, do not have a load in the wagon, or are bobtail. Check your little green FMCSA book sometime. Yes... I have been stopped and checked doing this. No warnings, No citations. Max distance I have done this is 240 miles. There is no mileage limit specified in the regulations.
     
    otherhalftw Thanks this.
  5. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

    18,951
    8,981
    Apr 4, 2007
    0
    It is for someone like you, but not for a company driver.
     
  6. otherhalftw

    otherhalftw R.I.P.

    13,081
    45,332
    Nov 18, 2008
    CA...gold discovery foothills
    0
    Depends on the company. DHE allows the drivers to use the "unladen exemption"...I'm sure, with the issue of tight hours being used up, many more companies will be joining the ranks.
     
  7. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

    18,951
    8,981
    Apr 4, 2007
    0
    Majority will not allow them the ability to drop a trailer and drive it home.
     
    otherhalftw and j3411 Thank this.
  8. otherhalftw

    otherhalftw R.I.P.

    13,081
    45,332
    Nov 18, 2008
    CA...gold discovery foothills
    0
    OK...how do you drive it home if you already dropped it?:yes2557:




    You knew that was coming....didn't you?!?
     
    Roadmedic Thanks this.
  9. shredfit1

    shredfit1 Road Train Member

    1,290
    583
    Nov 24, 2008
    MN
    0
    And this 'thinking ahead' would help someone on their 70hrs... how? Gasp! Yes, some of us do run up on our 70 every week... You know, the drivers that are out there really working... or the 'Git-R-Done' types as we are refered to on this forum. If you think that I'm gonna take my 34 off, 30 miles from my home... please quit driving now... you will NEVER pass your next drug test... as your obviously smoking crack.


    What caused the HOS petty rules IS a desire for revenue. There is NOT a shred of evidence that suggests HOS rules have improved safety.
     
  10. daf105paccar

    daf105paccar Road Train Member

    6,564
    7,293
    Apr 15, 2012
    0
    What if there were no rules?
    Would the road be safer?
    Would dispatchers let the driver sleep when he was tired?
    Would drivers have the sense to stop when they needed to stop?
    Would you earn more and have a better life if there was no rules?
     
  11. Autocar

    Autocar Road Train Member

    3,167
    2,358
    Apr 28, 2012
    The Hot Rod Shop Oxford, AL
    0
    Over 30 years in this business and it has gone to crap from all the self proclaimed "Super Truckers". I'll be glad when they are finally run off and I don't have to compete with them anymore.

    Yes, they do keep the rates down, by running loads illegally for the same rate it takes to run them legally. If you're going to be illegal, at least take lessons from true criminals and make good money for the risk, instead of being amateurs.
     
  • Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.