Who Pays The Ticket?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by DaltonR121, Jun 12, 2012.

  1. Semi Crazy

    Semi Crazy Road Train Member

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    I wonder how Ray LaHood feels about me drinking beer while working on my brakes!
     
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  3. aiwiron

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    I would at least wrap the hose for the keg dispenser to prevent chaffing, my problem is keeping the nozzle close for refills. :biggrin_2552:
     
  4. revelation1911

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    Yep, you're just repeating what I stated. There is a difference between inspecting, repairing and checking brakes.
    You'd originally posted that a pre trip would include inspecting brakes IT DOSEN"T, ONLY inpsecting brakes is going to tell you the travel of slack adjuster's and
    this is beyond what a pre trip is. About the only thing a pre trip will do is let you see if all the components are there.
    You implied that in a pre trip a driver is going to get out a tool kit and creeper?
    SO NO out of adjustment brakes shouldn't fall on the driver unless thre was several out and I don't trust the dot folks not to lie about it.
     
  5. revelation1911

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    I'd like to use ray lahood's mouth as a group urinal after a beer fest.
     
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  6. aiwiron

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    You must enjoy arguments, but with that observation I do get under the truck and look and it is required for a driver to check all parts of the brake system.

    For the inspectors they check it so why not do it yourself as required? The lazy will never even walk around let alone look under the vehicle they are driving, the stupid will blame someone else for lack of personal responsibility.
     
  7. revelation1911

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    I do like arguemnets when they are based on facts, Not to mention I'm bored and theres nothing paying today right now.
    With that said let's examine the facts??
    So you are releasing the brakes and getting under your truck and checking that all are releasing properly?
    Then you are applying the brakes and getting back under and measuring with a "aproved measuring tool" ? You are aware the brake pressure "grows" the longer the application?
    Also bear in mind that the parking brakes are SPRING pressure, totally different than air application, you do know this?
    So you are trying to say you do this twice a day?? I'll call BS on that. Now you may lean under and give it a looksie just like I do everyday.
    But you don't get under and measure everyday. I'd pay to see that being done day in and out.
    What you've posted is a driver should know from a pre trip whether his brakes are less than 1 1/2 inch travel or more, this isn't pratical or possible
    with what is normally used as a pre trip inspection.
     
  8. aiwiron

    aiwiron Road Train Member

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    While not an expert myself I worked on trucks long before driving them on the road, if you do not know how to check brakes without someone helping then you have never known how to check brake travel. You do not need the approved measuring tool as you call it, where does one spend the money to get that over priced tool?

    I never said any of the nonsense about doing it twice a day, practical and responsible pre and post trip inspections are required and no one will ever do it twice per day.

    But will say this, I never have been placed out of service for foolishness or being lazy.
     
  9. DEMO

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    Right or wrong I inspect my breaks entirely, from slack ajusters to pads & make any adjustments that may be needed. I personally feel it is part of my duty.
     
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  10. revelation1911

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    Here's the tools in the lahood tool kit.
    http://cvsa.stores.yahoo.net/asdf.html

    I never used one myself. I was working on truck brakes back in tha day's of "wedge" brakes if you know what those are?
    There are rule of thumb adjustments such as 1/2 a turn off. But a driver receiving a 400 company fine is out of the question in my book.
    The average fine on anything not serious if anything is like a 100-150 dollars by the states, so why should a company hammer a driver is my whole point.
    If operating properly self adjusters should take care of 99% of adjustment issues automatically.
    The point being the average comapny driver wouldn't know anyway and lookking is about all they can do.
    Now me being the owner I go the extra cause it's my money. I'm only talking in praticallity of things and the original post.
     
  11. Gizmo_Man

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    if i am not mistaken, the driver got/gets an $85 dollar ticket for "failing to obey a traffic control device (the detour signs)", and the company get's "up to" the MAX $3,000 fine (says so right on the signs) for being over-weight, over axles allowed (2 axle max). it was not a $5,000...i know, i live here.

    a point of fact, you say it is "fully opened"....i can assure you that it IS NOT FULLY opened....ONLY the NORTH BOUND side IS OPEN. to say it is "fully opened" suggests that everyone can go NORTH AND SOUTH on the bridge, which is totally untrue.

    FINES still exist for SOUTH bounders NOT taking the detours.

    again, i know this, i live here, I also think that the state wants to thank all those drivers that "donated" to the RI General fund, as of date, the state had collected nearly $13 million dollars. not reading the signs, not following the detours, no one should be complaining when they get hit big time. trucking companies (i think) SHOULD FIRE drivers that cost them undo fines, for lack of FOLLOWING detours.
     
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