Cabovers

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by Wildcat74, Apr 3, 2011.

  1. jonboy29

    jonboy29 Light Load Member

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    Intranzit, you can order Freightliner Argosy as a glider in Canada, but they are rare as hens teeth.
    I think waggoneers is going to have to switch to something like a Western Star low max or Volvo makes a car hauler low profile cab.
    Shame, Argosy should be on the dealer lot.
     
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  3. InTranzit

    InTranzit Light Load Member

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    This new idea of conventional trucks with short hoods where half of the engine is under the cab is crap. It makes any repair on the engine absolutely a nightmare. No access to get to anything on that engine without having to spend half day uninstalling a bunch of crap that's in the way, and even then the cab is in the way of most of the back half of that engine.......can't move cab outa the way.
    Darn it! If it's a conventional then give me the long nose truck, or otherways give me a Cabover any day......I'll take that COE in a heartbeat.
     
  4. InTranzit

    InTranzit Light Load Member

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    My argument against the Argosy is the crappy cab access. Those swing out steps are good only when the truck is new, and then again you have to macke sure that you're not close to other things where the steps can hit when swinging out. When things get old and crap don't swing out no more, you have to swing yourself like a monkey trying to get in and out of that truck.
    Why don't Freightliner offer the MB Actros is my question??? At least the Actros is ergonomicly designed, superior quality and looks awesome too.
     
  5. InTranzit

    InTranzit Light Load Member

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    It's not about forcing American truck builders to produce COE trucks for the few people and companies that want them. It's about changing stupid and outdated protectionist regulations and allow COE truck imports from manufacturers that have a long history of producing COE trucks and a good product reputation. As always, Americans are good at "reinventing the wheel" only of a much worse quality then what's already available from somewhere else.

    I don't think that by opening to the import of COE trucks would cause any loss of market share to the American builders that are focused only on producing conventional trucks. The people that prefer conventional trucks over COE's are going to continue to puchse the KW W900's and the Peterbilt 379's and the rest of them. If they don't care now about the truck buyers which desire to buy COE's because these potential customers are fewer, then why in the world would they care at all if a few COE trucks from Europe will make their way over the Atlantic on this truck market????

    Isn't it about freedom to choose a desired product in a "free society" with so called "free market" ideals and values????
     
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  6. Pablo-UA

    Pablo-UA Road Train Member

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    I cant agree.. Really US market is not ready for COE's (I sugest something like old school drivers do not want hoodless trucks and insuarance companies want longer noses). When US market be ready European cabover appeare but with local bages. I sugest they will import ore make cabs from EU trucks only, Paccar will use DAF cab, International - MAN TGA, Freightliner - Axor and Actros cab.... becouse US and EU trucks share powertraine and electronic and air systems. Just look at small KW cabovers. Looks like DAF LF, but frame is made in the USA, engine Paccar (really it is cummins, like on EU LF), body is made in USA, so cab was imported only. EU DAF LF got Cummins engine with Paccar logo but Euro-5 calibrated. US version got 12V system, in EU 24 V so ABS/EBS, ECAS, VIC and EECM (may be CM2150, may be Bosch MS7) are all 24V. really all Wabco electronic units made for NA and Europe are made in Wrozlaw, PL, and they make 12V and 24V versions with the same price, so it is not a problem to make US version of European cabover.
     
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  7. Scania man

    Scania man Road Train Member

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    It's the same here, probably alot worse as regards driving hours especially bad since the introduction of digital tachographs, you are Garunteed to be checked on our roads at least once a week with massive fines for only small infringements ,mess with your driving records and it's prison for fraud in some countries! I personally know a guy that got a 15,000 euro on the spot fine for over hours in France.

    I think I'd prefer to work over there right now with the way things are here, over regulation is a serious problem here, just a shame I can't bring my r series with me lol
     
  8. Scania man

    Scania man Road Train Member

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    Don't kenworth alread make a k500 for the oil industry, it's got a DAF xf cab
     
  9. Scania man

    Scania man Road Train Member

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    Sounds a bit daft, there's plenty of applications where a Coe would be far more useful, I also noticed day cabs overthere for city deliveries etc, wouldn't it be better have a Coe ? You'd still have a sleeper and still be easier to manoeuvre
     
  10. Scania man

    Scania man Road Train Member

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    The US army runs alot of Scania coe's over here but they run a few argosy too, not many but you'd see them once in a while, never got close enough for an inspection though. Probably more of them here than in the US lol
     
  11. Scania man

    Scania man Road Train Member

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    Don't know the Argosy don't have a set-back axle, you could have easy cab access aswell as that you'd have room for long front springs that would improve the ride dramatically !
     
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