Confused about log book

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by trentp1937, Jul 10, 2012.

  1. trentp1937

    trentp1937 Bobtail Member

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    I work for a small industrial whs. in Indiana. I have held class "B" for over five years. I currently have a permit for class "A". I will be driving a tanker hauling food grade mineral oil. We have always been told as long as you don't go over 150 miles from home, or out of state, you do not need to run a log book. I usually run a log book a couple of times a week. I will be making runs over 150 miles with the tanker so a log book is a must. I am confused about a couple of things though. Most of the time I will be home every night. As I understand it, I am allowed a total of 14 hours "on duty" max. I am allowed 11 hours of "driving" each day. Are there any exceptions to this? I am paid hourly, not by the mile. Do I need to run a log every day, like the log book says, regardless of driving or not? Any help or input is appreciated. Also, is a tanker hauling food grade required to stop at a rail crossing?
     
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  3. ew2108

    ew2108 Road Train Member

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    I'd run a log anyway just so you'll be in the habit of doing it and it may help if you get smacked with a dot check by having a compete log. On days off you simply Log off duty


    14 hours a day with 11 max of drive is correct.
    You however have one 16 hour shift weekly you can still only drive 11 hours.
    There is more to this rule but I'd have to read up on it like if you layover it eliminates the 16 hr shift, Its likely in your green and white book! Your company also may not use the rule my company makes use of it but we are on elogs and have a dot agent that keeps us all in check.


    If you placard you must stop everytime.
     
  4. Bigfoot_Trucking

    Bigfoot_Trucking Light Load Member

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    I believe you can be on duty for as long as you want. Your up to 11hr driving has to be done within 14hrs.
     
  5. trentp1937

    trentp1937 Bobtail Member

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    Thanks for your reply. Good to hear from someone experienced. I don't want to sound like an idiot, but this is our companies first tractor/trailor, and lucky me gets to start us off. What green and white book are you talking about?
     
  6. Speedemon1084

    Speedemon1084 Medium Load Member

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    The green and white book is the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations book. Your company should have a copy, if not almost every truckstop sells them.
     
  7. Mark Kling

    Mark Kling Technology Contributor

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    You might want to think about getting a logging program.
     
  8. ew2108

    ew2108 Road Train Member

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    You Can work 24 hours in day but it all counts towards you end of week hours.
    With the 16 hour shift if you layover you CANNOT use another 16 hour shift until you have had you 34hr rest and you have made 5 tours/days to and from the home terminal this is because by laying over you become a otr driver and otr drivers can use the 16 hours shift.
    The book is the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration booklet most companies require you to carry it in addition you may be required to carry the emergency response guidebook.
     
  9. Rif Raf McQ

    Rif Raf McQ Light Load Member

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    If you are within the 150 intrastate miles you do not have to use a log book unless your company is not keeping track of your time in the truck or your hours worked on-duty, like a time punch card or a timesheet with all the drivers names on it and hours for the day and week etc.

    Me personally I think that is going to be a pain in the hooha. I would just use the log book the whole time but it's your companies decision whether or not you need to use them, they are the ones under fire if they told you, you dont need them then get audited and find out they should have used them.
     
  10. Tazz

    Tazz Road Train Member

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    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/fmcsrguidedetails.aspx?menukey=395


    All your questions will be answered within part 395 save the railroad crossing.
    Non-Hazmat loads so long as they are not passenger carrying commercial vehicles need only exercise caution while crossing RR tracks.

    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=392.10

    That will give you a place to check that.

    I would always suggest when a regulation is in question to avoid asking random people and instead go to the source of the regulation.
     
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  11. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    I hope the days you do run a log you are aware you have to show the number of hours worked in the past 7 days . It's much simpler just to run a log every day so you have that info when you need it.
     
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