The WORST Shippers and Receivers - Truckers WILL NOT Buy Their Products!

you could probably make some money there,now.

 

All good points, but do they belong in this thread?

My vote is for Dole in Dallas, TX. Had me sit for over 8 hours while they argued with my company OSD department over the deal they had already agreed to.

 

Over the years I have come to believe that if you are not in the bunk, backed into a dock waiting for someone to do something, you are online 4. To be off duty you have to be relieved of any responsibility for the truck & the load by your company. The regs guideline says if you are sitting in the driver seat within reach of the controls of a CMV, you are driving, even though you are backed in to the dock. Would they enforce that rule, I doubt it but it is there. In other words, 24 hours minus 10 sleeping =14 hours of on duty & or driving time. To be off duty you must be relieved of all responsibility of the equipment by your company. 25 years of driving & that has never happened to me. Certain types of freight (per DOT REG'S)require that someone be present & in control & or monitor the load @ all times. You co driver gets sick & goes to the Hospital. It's gonna be 36 hours before a relief driver shows up. If you are by yourself, in the sleeper, are you in compliance with the monitoring rule, even though you are sleeping. I don't have an answer for this one. Anyone? The REG'S state you have to have a minimum of 8 hours of un-interrupted sleep. If you take 6 hours @ the dock in the sleeper, do you have to start your rest period over again? I say yes. I would do my best to show 8 on my log, but the in & out sheets of most shipper/receivers would hang you out to dry if you were involved in an accident. The Audit trails in trucking can & will catch up to you.

 

This is a perfect example of why the congressman and senators have no clue when it comes to regulating the trucking industry,
as they have never driven a truck dealing with brokers, customers, shippers, etc. on the road trying to make a living. They try to
put drivers in a one size box to fit all. My husband drives a truck has been for years. He is 71 and still loves to go on the road.
His sleep patterns are about 7 hours and then he likes to get an early start and drive for about 7 hrs and pull in and take a nap in
the middle of the day, and then get up and finish his 4 hrs driving. But this is a no no with the regulations set down by DOT and the
government. Our customers are easy freight; however, we do have to deal with brokers on occasion and do general freight to get
from point a to b and that is where the hassle comes in. You are at a shipper for 4 hrs getting loading and then at a receiver for 4 hrs
or longer getting unloaded, it makes it very difficult fitting into the one size fits all box. However, it is all the responsibiity of the driver or
carrier to keep with guidelines made by people who have no clue.

 

Folks, it's time to stop hijacking this thread. This discussion is important and should have it's own thread. Thanks for moving this conversation to where it belongs.

 

the new laws that have taken effect, no longer state you are on the drive line, if in the driver seat. A driver may be off duty, while resting in a parked vehicle, even with out a sleeper.

 

Thanks TL Heart, I did not know they changed the in the seat rule. With electronics the way they are, it is very hard to cheat your hours in the logbook. Oh you can do it, but suffer through an audit of your records by the compliance officer, or have your paperwork & time sheets subpoenaed from your various stops after the accident you are in & you are pretty much done in this business if you make false entries. I first drove a semi when I was 21 & you could get away with just about anything running cross country. Times have changed.

 

I am pretty new to this forum. What do you mean by hijacking this thread & where did it get moved to. Thanks.

 

Hijacking is simply changing the original subject of the thread. But can also mean forcing the original poster out of the conversation. It's subjective really, but a thread about bad shippers and receivers shouldn't drift into a conversation about the legalities of trucking. There's quite a few other threads about that very subject. Not trying to be a pain, but followers of this thread may lose interest if the subject is changed for long enough. Welcome to TTR though, good to have as many drivers and trucking industry folks here as possible ... experienced or not, welcome.

 

Good rule. I can see how a conversation on one subjectcan drift in to something totally different. For years I was a big fan &poster on trucknet.com. I think it failed because of bickering between theposters & the moderators unable to control it. When they tried & camedown with a heavy hand, it turned people off & they went somewhere else.But in the end it was the posters who could not carry on a conversation withoutfoul language & hurling insults. Kind of makes you yearn for Opie &Bedspread. At least they were civil.