Scenario:
Local delivery (hand bombing) route 1 hour or so outside of home terminal.
Route expected to take 13-14 hours to complete
2 new drivers teamed in 1 truck to complete the run.
Not expected to complete in one day, will be given hotel for the night. not ideal for due to at home situation.
Is it ok to for person not driving to stay off duty in order to retain hours to complete run and drive home at end of day?
I'm thinking this isn't ok lol but I thought I would ask anyway.
Is this legal?
Discussion in 'Canadian Truckers Forum' started by pdizzle, Aug 8, 2012.
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No its not ok.
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Why can't a driver be off duty riding in the truck like team drivers?
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kind of why I asked. I planned to ask the supervisor but I didn't want to sound like an idiot.
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riding in passenger seat can be logged off duty
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I know with our company, if we are a passenger we have to log line 4. We have oilfield exemption so not sure where that rule fall into.
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I could be wrong, but if I remember correctly, the truck may need to have a sleeper berth for the second driver to be able to "save" his hours. Riding in the passenger seat does not allow him to be off line 4.
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NSC Standard 9: HOS
1. Interpretation
"on-duty time" means...
(b) travelling in a commercial vehicle as a co-driver, when the time is not spent in the sleeper berth
(pg. 4)
CCMTA Application Guide
30. What is the duty status of a passenger who is riding seated next to the driver and who will become a driver of a commercial vehicle?
Guidance: On-duty (not driving) if the passenger does not take 8 consecutive hours off-duty prior to driving. Off-duty if the passenger complies with the provisions under section 10.
Standard 9
10. Travelling as a passenger--Off-duty time
If a driver who has, at the request of the motor carrier by whom the driver is employed or otherwise engaged, spent time travelling as a passenger in any mode of transportation to the destination at which the driver will begin driving takes 8 consecutive hours of off-duty time before beginning to drive, the time spent as a passenger shall be counted as off-duty time.
(pg. 6)
Application Guide
50. Can a co-driver (who is deemed to be a team driver) sleep in the passenger seat, while the vehicle is being operated, and claim off-duty?
Guidance: No.Hegemeister Thanks this. -
For the OP, the above is a moot point anyhow as (I assume) you will be be working, but not driving. Although you could try just riding as a passenger, but I see a long walk in your future.
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One hour from the house? Drive the b!tch home.
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