Would you guys consider it stealing if you lumped a load and charged the broker ?

thats the thing that get me....if the company pays a lumper, they pay say $100. (just an example) but if the driver wants to do it, they wanna pay $20. or $30. thats crap....still the same amount of work to be done....

 

There is nothing wrong with you doing the lumping and getting paid for it. Isn't this the O/O forum, meaning we are are own businesses? Isn't the intent of a business to make a profit? If you contract for say, $75 for lumping a load, if you pay a lumper $50 to do it, you subcontracted the work and should still be able to charge $75. Take the same mentality to lumping that you do for driving. Know what your break-even is for your time and make money on it. Consider this when negotiating lumper fees that you can charge.

If it's negotiated as a pass-through for actual lumpers paid, then so be it.

 

Yeah but anymore they all seem to have licensing requirements for the electric pallet jack, or just flat out "no driver you use the hand pallet jack". I just never messed with lumping anything as a company driver, some of the crap my old company hauled with thousands of cases or 20 pallets that had to be made into 65 pallets etc, half a day doing that?.. Unless it's a Fema non-perishables load or something like that going to disaster area I'm not messing with any more groc load's.

 

The company has cost involved with their business. Just like a company may make $2,000 on a load but only pays the driver $400. WC claims are statistically much higher during unloading, the driver is tiring themselves out instead of resting for their next load, and the lumper service may be way faster ie clamp forklift vs hand stack large wood to small wood.

 

back "in the day" when I used to dry box, I would always hope that my appointment was around 1-2 pm. knew i wouldn't load till the next day, so i would take my time. 20 pallets broken down to 30-45? no problem. I'd do 3-4 then take a break. around 6-7pm, they'd start sweating that i would be out of there by 11pm. they actually came over and did my breakdown. I think I'm still banned from C&S wholesale to this day..

 

This is true but it has always made me wonder.. Why.. I mean I am paying say Wal-Mart to unload their product off of my truck into their warehouse.. seems backwards...

 

i worked for a company who encouraged there drivers to unload ..BUT they paid the driver $100 when they would of paid the lumper service $300 so i slept

 

I do it if its it only going to take a few min wont do a whole load and print out a lumper receipt as paying the driver

 

If you do the manual labor get the money period.

 

So does that mean if you're a company driver unloading your freight as a lumper instead of your contracted rate from your company, and you hurt yourself, you aren't going to file a workers comp claim?