Woke up to a puddle under my truck!

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by candab, Nov 22, 2007.

  1. candab

    candab Light Load Member

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    A couple nights ago in central Texas, I was awaiting my morning delivery appointment, so I decided to camp out in a small town's Wal Mart parking lot. When I woke up the next morning, I smelled very strong diesel fumes and when I got out to do my morning inspection, there was a pretty large puddle of what I figured was oil, fuel, and coolant. :biggrin_2554:

    I have had a small oil leak around the oil pan gasket, but this was much worse, as I figure there was about a gallon of liquid on the ground. At the time I saw it, there was no oil leaking, but the coolant reservoir was overflowing, and the pipe behind the turbo looked like it had oil coming from it. I have done a little research and found that the "oil" behind the turbo was likely actually diesel from idling at low RPMs overnight.

    I immediately called the boss, who scolded me for not only idling overnight which my trainer said to do, but for not putting it at "high idle" at about 1000 RPM instead of the "low idle" 600 range. Anyway, he advised me to run at high idle, check the gauges, keep an eye on anything else that might be leaking for the next 20 minutes. Nothing else happened.

    Anyone care to give their thoughts on this? I've only been driving 3 months and don't really care to blow an engine. Just last week I was commended for being able to save the engine after one of my injectors failed. Here are the main details:

    2000 Western Star with a 3406e 14.6L Cat engine. Recently got #4 injector replaced. Check engine light appeared soon after which showed my intake manifold temp sensor was bad, got it replaced. Check engine light returned, can't find a source of the problem this time. Camped out overnight with air temps around 73F. Upon camping, oil temp was roughly 200F, water temp was around 185F, oil pressure range from 50-75 PSI idle to cruise speed. Idled low overnight at around 650 RPM, as I had done every other night since starting to drive, without any issues.

    Let me know what you think!
     
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  3. Strngs012

    Strngs012 Light Load Member

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    Next time he says that, ask him if he slept comfortably last night in his climate controlled home.
     
  4. slick50

    slick50 Light Load Member

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    Diesel engines should maintain 'normal' operating temperature at all times, and 650rpm (in your case) didn't do that. I had that same thing happen to me when I started driving, my tech said that oil and diesel got past the turbo and made a big mess. I had to put in almost a gallon of oil the next morning. I was advised (as you were) to run about 850 in the summer, 1050 winter (or more). This will keep your Cat warm, and you cool (since you are not paying for the fuel). Keep on truckin' and you will learn something new everyday.
     
  5. notarps4me

    notarps4me Road Train Member

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    The older trucks you did. Not sure about the newer ones. The older ones when they overheated you just grabbed a gear and did not shut it off or it would damage it. Also you would not shut the truck off right after you ran it. You would idle it so you would not damage the turbo,
     
  6. kd5drx

    kd5drx <strong>Master of Electronic Communications</stron

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    I drove a detroit for over 15 years several of them infact and they allways did that if you let them idle at normal idle RPM. It is allways best to bump them to around 1000 or a little better in the coldest winter time to keep them from blubbering like that. I don't know about the cats but since they to are electronic engines i would say they will do the same things. Just bump the idle up and they will be fine. I also kicked the fan on in the summer so it would stay at a better temp when parked.
     
  7. fastSVT

    fastSVT Light Load Member

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    Did you have the PCM scanned to see what code was setting off the check engine light? The light will not go off withough setting a code.
    That is correct. After driving, the turbo is hot. So you don't want to shut off the engine and stop the oil from lubricating the turbo when it's that hot. Really the required idle time to cool the turbo after a drive is only approximately one minute.
     
  8. Candy Licker

    Candy Licker Bobtail Member

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    if it was just antifreeze....i had that problem once before...started loosing antifreeze...was told to change the radiator cap... but was not the problem...mechanic told me to idle the truck up about 1400 and wait...after several minutes antifreeze started flowing out the over flow line....after it was said and done....it was the number one cylinder had a hairline crack causing the enging on the water side to build pressure and blow it out the overflow tube....just something you might check to see if that is were it was coming from
     
  9. candab

    candab Light Load Member

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    Well, soon after this episode, the truck caught fire near San Antonio, so I'm assuming things were related in some way. I think we lost an oil cooler and the oil mixed with the coolant, and spilled out the overflow onto the turbo (the overflow didn't have a drain tube attached). I saved the truck, much to the dismay of my boss, and was out of work for about three weeks waiting for it to be fixed.

    It runs pretty good right now, but there seems to be a slight air leak coming from the vicinity of the fan clutch that needs to be looked at.
     
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