Well Im new to the forum.. Ive been reading since July.. First let me say thanks to all the guys and gals for all the good info and the daily updates from different schools and companies Ive read on here its been really helpful.. Now I got a couple questions for the OTR people..
So right now Im a small business owner make around $29,000 a year but pretty much hate what I do and the new management that took over.. Im an outside contractor for a small school in FL. dont want to say where but I fear for losing my job every summer break and like I said hate this type of work ( pressure wash, strip and wax floors basically a janitor and have too much time off during the year) plus they dont want to renew my contract, just go year by year on top of that no benefits, buy my own supplies and have to pay my own taxes its hard to run a small business these days.. So Ive been researching the trucking industry and feel like this is the place for me..
I would be going the company school route let them train me and be there slave for a year at least.. I dont have any kids or a wife so itll be easy for me to be out 4-6 weeks a time no problem would even be willing to take home time out on the road a couple times a year.. I have a great driving record no DUI's not even a ticket in the last 10 years.. No prior record so I should have no problem with getting in training (cross my fingers Ive read a lot of people get sent home).. So my concerns are can I expect to be around that $29,000 a year mark or lower for first year?.. I understand I got to put my time in and take the good with the bad I run a business so totally understand what is wanted from an employee.. Like I said im not one who is wanting to be home every weekend or every couple weeks.. Im 30 and its time for a career and not just a job.. Im not looking to do lease or own. I just want to get my feet wet, learn and get some experience under my belt for a few years then Ill weigh my options..
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1) can I expect to be in that $29,000 a year mark for my first year or a little lower? I understand theres a bunch of variables that will determine this.
2) what to expect for the DOT physical is it a grab the boys and cough or a finger in the brown eye type of deal? dont want to be violated hahaha
3) Are you all seeing a decline in miles and loads or is it a pretty steady business?
4) how do the sleeping arrangements work when out on the road with a trainer?
5) how do the shower rooms work just you or is it wide open? I only ask because I dont want to feel like im in prison every other day. LOL
6) how much do you spend on food or person supplies per week?
7) last how would I go about proving my employment history to a company since owning a small business? been doing this for 10 years.
I appreciate any and all advice and be safe out there..
New here.. Looking for advice.
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by xd45hurricane, Sep 27, 2012.
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I'll answer your questions, based on my experience.
1. You should make much more than $29,000.00 annually. After a few short years, can shop around and get in the $45K-$65K range (tankers/reefers OTR) Food service companies pay good, but you end up with a very bad back to enjoy in retirement years.
2. DOT physical - cough
3. Miles and loads can't really be predicted. Tanker usually stay busy year round/reefer can be seasonal hauling produce, but the plus is reefer can also haul dry van loads. Hard to give a good answer to this question; too many variables.
4. Sleeping arrangements - ideally truck has bunk beds or you stay busy enough to sleep while the other is driving. Worst case, one in bunk, the other laid back in a seat. One time I put brackets in the truck and strung a small camping hammock in the ####pit area. Only seen one other trucker do that.
5. Showers are private and door locks from inside.
6. Road expenses vary by driver. Most of the time I ate at salad bar every day(to keep weight off) & ate one full buffet meal maybe every 2 or 3 days. I stayed very healthy.
7. Since you are self-employed, be prepared to show your tax records to prove employment. Show or tell the companies you apply to, without them asking. If they have to ask, they may not, and just tell you , we have more qualified people to fill the positions.
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Thanks chinatown.. Pretty much what I expected just doing my research.. Im thinking of getting into refers figured there had to be a couple extra dollars in that and company would be a little quicker getting me off the side of road if broke down with bunch of food on board.. I think trucking is my calling.. Plan on riding that rest of this school year out with my business , save a little money so I dont have to depend on training money my first few weeks out and hopefully do my schooling and training around april and may.. maybe even sooner Im ready to move on..
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I was a small business owner myself and still run it part time since everything is pretty much automated online and I have a staff who offers support. No kids, single as well so you and I are in the same boat. Chinatown pretty much answered all of your questions. Yeah before I became a trucker I thought we had to share a shower too but heck that is the best part since it is like having your own private bathroom. Some truck stops have really nice showers as well, with the mosaic walls and stainless steel appliances that look brand new. My checks are steady but ever since I get a new, slower truck, I run less miles now since it takes me longer to reach my destination.
Make sure that whatever company you choose doesn't govern the trucks to 62 - 64. It makes a huge difference, my last truck could do 68 and my new one goes 64 max. 4 mph in 11 hours of driving is 44 miles. So I am now 44 miles behind me last truck when it comes to deliveries. That is a big deal if you have to travel a long distance and need to take a 10 hour restart that wasn't needed with the fast truck until I already arrived. Sometimes I was able to squeeze in two or three stops in one day since my truck was so fast and now I can only do one and my checks are $300 less per week. I don't understand how the so called fuel savings is greater than a profit made by carrying more loads in the same timeframe. I still get the same mpg with the slow truck. -
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hurricane, I'm not a driver yet but kinda in your same position and have been doing my research, so will give my thoughts, mainly about your first question about pay. The other things you ask already been answered and those have to do with the lifestyle of trucking, which you will have certain preferences that will be found out as you do the experience yourself. I will say about the last question about being self-employed, it might be a little rough topic with the company-sponsored companies, basically you need to be well documented in what you can provide to them, including reference people they can call, meaning business people, not your family & friends....I don't know for sure how that will go but be well prepared also before you ever fill-in an application to the point you have practiced exactly what you can say about your self-employment plus the written records proof. Think it over and over your "script" or gameplan how you are going to explain it.
You asked $29,000 in your first year driving = probably will be right around there, to slightly lower in your first year. You did say going the company-sponsored training option (same as me), so from what I found the first six months you can expect approx. $500 per week gross pay (kinda averaged out - remember you typically don't get paid at all during the first month training period until you actually get the CDL). That's $13,000 for six months, so its a pace for $26,000 annual. But you can be earning a little boost from the 6-12 month mark, it will depend on the pay rate "cents per mile" (cpm) of the company you are with, and of course the miles you are given to drive.
About the miles, this is a huge unknown for me also, never been a driver, but talked to several companies so far and based on the forum info here, for company-sponsored OTR company I am figuring 2300 miles per week seems like a safe assumption. I have heard that weeks can range from 1800 to 3000+ but just use 2300 seems like a fair conservative number for miles. Keep in mind you will have some low weeks and some better weeks, so its important to manage your money very well (don't blow some off when you get a good week or 2).
Having said all of this, there are probably training companies out there if you get on with them you can certainly earn $33,000 maybe more in your first year. Maybe on the high-side $40,000 or slightly more. My advice is if you expect your first year earnings will be $26,000 to $29,000 you will be better off to think of it that way. If you wind-up getting a gig with more dollars then of course it will be a pleasant surprise. Low expectation is the key.
Expectation overall should be ready for a crummy experience in the first year or two, if your going to do the OTR thing. Best advise is buckle-in and be ready for it, kinda think of a cross between army boot camp and well, camping outdoors. You're gonna have to go with the company flow, always have a good attitude, willingness to learn, and overall be appreciative of the opportunity to get your experience driving, so that you can move on to a better job with a company after getting minimum 1 year solid put in. These are things you probably already know, but from what I've found it is the most important to stay vigilant about your attitude. Low expectation is still the key.
You do that while driving as safely as possible and learning everything you can. Then sometime after a year you will have much better options with companies to work for. And comes with better pay when you get hired on after your first company.
To say it another way, your first year is very much like an investment. We all heard the saying "Time is money" correct? Think of your time investment and if you are making $26,000 to $29,000 in your first year it is well worth the investment. -
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thanks for your advice HughJack..
One of my concerns is the company I do business with doesn't 1099 me so I don't have those, I have to do all the tax stuff myself. I do have one for last year for doing a big job for there sister company and hope to get another this year so that would at least be 2 years worth.. But I have business licenses, pay stubs from same company for years with matching invoices, and a list of references around 15 - 20(none family couple friends) could verify Ive been in business for years.. I'm almost 100% positive the people I do work for now would vouch for me( theres 1 director 2 managers and the accountant).. I would rather not go that route getting them involved just in case something falls through with truck school. I could fall back on my current situation without them knowing
The money part I understand there's just to many variables for an actual amount.. I have no problem putting in my dues before expecting to be properly compensated for it, too be honest I would just be appreciative for the training and schooling I would have no problem signing a 1 year contract just to learn the ins and outs.. I just cant imagine living on the road for only 19,000 - 22,000 a year.. I really need to do at least 25-26 my first year that's low expectations in my book..
That's funny you mentioned boot camp that's pretty much the attitude I'm going in with.. Nothing worth any thing is easy.. Biggest shock factor for me probably will be not sleeping in my bed every night but Ill get over that.. -
I never did army boot camp, but want to say it is waaayy more rough I'm sure. But same type of mind preparation meaning it will be tough. Another thing about the pay, you might already know this, but I think freight really gets slow in January and doesn't usually increase again until spring time. Just saying that in general. I know shipments always slowed at that time of year with previous companies I worked for who shipped their goods. But again, never been a driver so I'm piecing this info together.
A final thought for you, because it sounds like you want to become a truck driver and make a career out of it. If you pay for the school on your own it could cost anywhere from $1500 to $3000 to $6000 (the 1500 are out there but I have no idea if those are kinda fly by night schools that might not be a great choice). But let's say $2500 is the average cost for a reasonable truck school to get your CDL. Factor that in also to your expectation about pay. If you make $23,000 your first year + $2500 "value" of the training by doing the company-sponsored thing, consider that too.
I think company-sponsored way has both advantages for some people, and disadvantages. Many people warn us to go that option only as a last choice. I think it makes sense, but keep in mind you will be on the hook for the bill if for some reason you don't finish your contract time. And I've been told by a few people, some companies could look for an excuse to fire you "with cause" meaning they can claim to have a valid reason for terminating you, and still owe them a bill for the training.
Sorry for giving you much more to chew on. But word to the wise, proceed with caution and think long and hard.....worse case scenarios. -
Homophobic? Pee-pee shy?
Not raggin on you but did you notice what just about every one of your questions is about?
Personally I wouldn't stress on anyone touching your pee-pee or looking at your pee-pee or sleeping with your pee-pee. Haven't really run into that much of the pee-pee scenario's out there during my years on the road.
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