Chicago Student Seeks 7-21 day 'permit holding' 2nd seat gig

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by CastingMyFateToTheWind, Oct 3, 2012.

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  1. Mr. PlumCrazy

    Mr. PlumCrazy Road Train Member

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    Naw old lady nagged me all day so I have to take it out on someone else seeing she went to sleep on me
     
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  3. 900,000-tons-of-steel

    900,000-tons-of-steel Road Train Member

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    Too funny, still laughing.
     
  4. mamamullins

    mamamullins Medium Load Member

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    CDL permits are only good within the state. That is why companies require student drivers to obtain their CDL before they offer them a job. It would be better to ask your instructor if he is extra available time for you to practice. You will get plenty of practice once you pass your cdl, and go to work with a company and a trainer.
     
  5. Chinatown

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    You don't seem like you're cut out for the trucking life.
    If you're sincere about the trucking profession, then go to a company that hires newbies and tough it out like most of us had to do.
    Then if you don't like it, quit & flip burgers.
     
  6. CastingMyFateToTheWind

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    If I could have landed a W-2 paying job that would allow me to live above the poverty level, I would have already five years ago.

    Trucking may just be a means to an end for me financially--I do not know whether I will be in the industry or not in three years. I just want to make some bread so that I will have other options. Options that will include becoming an O/O or not, or staying as a driver or not, or becoming a broker, or just plain leaving the industry.
     
  7. ac120

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    Questions you'll be asked by your intended:
    What is your work history?
    Your driving record? Specifically, any recent accidents?
    Why do you think this approach is better than earning a CDL through a school?
    Are you insured for this?
    Why should I risk my truck--which feeds my family--and my good standing with my insurance carrier for you?


    Correct. And people manage to pass the test, go out with trainers (or not), and become first-seat drivers. They keep on learning. They earn their knowledge.



    [sic] Many newbies struggle with these things. They figured them out and so can you.


    You should, then, make a list of yards within 20 miles of your pad, visit them, and try to sell your idea. Or do you mean you would ask for compensation if you had to drive more than 20 miles each way for what amounted to free training?



    You're asking for a dispensation. It's impolite to make demands. I mean, this is all on your terms.


    Well, I've considered your proposal. Since anyone at TTR is free to post in this thread, there may be replies that you should skip over.


    It's a big angle. The axe wouldn't fall on you. You're asking someone to take on a lot of risk to help you take a shortcut.


    I mean no disrespect, but, no, you do not. A permit holder who has trouble backing and downshifting? The other thing is, the money side of a man's business is his business, not yours.



    This make no sense.



    That would be up to him, not you. You're asking a man to cast his fate to the wind.


     
  8. gokiddogo

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    The best advice sofar has been to go to a large company and put your year in. Sorry, but they are the only ones that have the cash for the errors YOU WILL MAKE, we all did, as beginners. Only experience can teach you and it comes with a price. If you wedge a trailer under a bridge for an owner op, his livelihood went right out the window. If you do it at a big company, you get fired but only take some money from the CEO's multi million dollar bonus account. Nothing will come easy until you prove yourself, move up the ranks. There ARE companies out there that will give you a 379 or W900L, even wide open, if they know they can trust you as a driver. It CAN be lucrative also (later on) if you decide to get your own truck, authority and customers. With the higher money the more risk you take. Trucking will give you what you put into it. You need to do a lot more learning, and don't forget that you will never stop learning. The difference in insurance would make it darn near impossible for anyone except a large outfit to employ you with zero experience.
     
  9. 900,000-tons-of-steel

    900,000-tons-of-steel Road Train Member

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    Which company will pay a new grad .33/mile with an at-fault, avoidable accident during his training? I'm curious as the driver who is training me told of a similar incident (as the one in your post below from two weeks ago) that occurred with one of his trainees (who I met) and said the trainee is still looking for a company to hire him. He rear-ended a Dodge pickup truck causing mega damage but no injuries. Now the trainee can't find a company to take him on.

     
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  10. dannythetrucker

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    yah, actually they do. Every day...

    Oh, well. They say it doesn't hurt to ask. You asked, right ? I don't blame you for not wanting to shell out for trucking school or go to work for one of the big companies with training programs.
     
  11. 900,000-tons-of-steel

    900,000-tons-of-steel Road Train Member

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    That wasn't my post, it was a quote in my post from a post from CastingMyFateToTheWind.
     
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