International jerky when taking off

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by stylicho, Jul 15, 2007.

  1. stylicho

    stylicho Light Load Member

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    When loaded heavy I had a real problem with taking off and starting in reverse in an International I drove. It was very difficult to get a smooth start. Is this a common problem with International? I heard that the Cummins engine is one of the cause of these problems because it produces too much power from the start or something like that.
     
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  3. Burky

    Burky Road Train Member

    My best guess here would be that the clutch disk, the flywheel, or one or more of the clutch plates is warped. When you engage the clutch, instead of making full smooth contact, it only contacts at part of the clutch facing, and causes the feel you get in the pedal. And we all have a human response to try to smooth it out with very small foot actions, and in fact it just worsens the problem. Someone, somewhere down the line probably had a pretty poor clutch technique and this is the root cause of the problem. In time, earlier than would normally be expected, the truck will need a clutch replacement, and a refacing of the flywheel. That should eliminate the problem.

    It's possible that it could be something else, but that would be the first area I would look into. A mechanic may be able to see evidence of it through the adjustment plate for the clutch brake, but if not then the trans needs to be dropped and the flywheel checked with a straightedge.
     
  4. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    His truck may have one of those nasty porcelain clutches in it. Those are next to impossible to work smoothly.
     
  5. stylicho

    stylicho Light Load Member

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    Appreciate all the info. Im not sure if it had a porcelain clutch but I was talking to a mechanic where I delivered and he said it probably had a porcelain clutch. I sleep seat and that was the first time I had an international.
     
  6. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    I hauled heavy equipment with a truck that had one of those. I'm amazed that I never broke the driveshaft.
     
  7. Clipboard

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    I drove a couple of internationals like that it seems the engine torque rotates the engine and transmission like a broken motor mount. but it isn't broken the rubber mounts flex the engine and trans rotate to the left and the clutch pedal sinks . if you converted the clutch linkage too a cable or hydraulic, the problem would be gone.which is why some trucks have cable or hydrologic clutch linkage.
     
  8. nbman

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    Around this neck of the woods the Int's are known for that , I drive one and have had many jerky starts when getting on a scale from a small incline,and as the original poster stated it seems to be worse with a heavy load. I've got a cummins under the hood as well.
     
  9. Clipboard

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    Right heavier loads cause the engine and tranny to twist more.
     
  10. nbman

    nbman Bobtail Member

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    Ever since I first read this thread I've been paying attention, when at the scales and it really does seem to me that the only Trucks that look like they are doing the "twist" are the Int's .
     
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