Lost and confused

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by brandnew, Oct 8, 2012.

  1. brandnew

    brandnew Bobtail Member

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    Hi all,

    I am interested in opening my own trucking business but i have no idea how to start. I do not want to be an owner/operator....but rather own trailers and book freight for drivers who own their own semi. I would only be interested in purchasing reefer trailers and having my drivers run produce. Although i have 0 experience, my brother has been in the trucking industry for 5yrs and would like to get involved as well. He is a driver and owns his own semi, but does not have the knowledge to make the jump from driver to owner. He wants to get off the road, and would rather do the business side of the industry. I have purchased some information from truckingsuccess.net and it has helped me understand the industry much more then i did previously, but i still don't know how to use the knowledge to make something happen. My brother seems to have a grasp on which sites to use to book loads, which seasons/areas to book in during the right time of year, how to book properly (because of his experience) but he is wondering more about the legal aspect of the industry. What paper work/permits do we need to fill out for the government to start our business? Its tough because he is on the road, and although he can talk me though a few things, i still feel very lost. Any information/help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks for your time.
     
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  3. VisionLogistics

    VisionLogistics Road Train Member

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    If you want power-only owner ops to run for you, do you have return freight to put in those wagons, or will you pay them well enough to deadhead back for more produce? Just one thought among a hundred others.
     
  4. brandnew

    brandnew Bobtail Member

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    yes we would book freight within the area to prevent deadhead for as little miles as possible.
     
  5. bigjoel

    bigjoel Road Train Member

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    Is this something you guys came up with on a Saturday night, after a 12 pack? There are dozens of trucking companies going under everyday. The industry is so competitive, the slim profits are measured in pennies per mile.

    No offense, but if established companies that have been around a long time are going under, what makes you think you can do any better? These were companies that had their own terminals, mechanics, discounted fuel and tires, own insurance, etc.

    Get the picture? You know how many people lose their butts in this biz? Don't be a smuck, the odds are heavily stacked against you.
     
  6. SurfingTrucker

    SurfingTrucker Light Load Member

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    If you serious about getting into this business, start by heading here:
    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/about/other/faq/faqs.aspx#question1

    1) Read EVERYTHING you can with regards to becoming your own MC. Make sure to figure out what will be needed to get you licensed in all states, including your own. Once you have gathered all of the information, you will then have to decide if this is something you can do on your own (in respect to getting licensed).

    2) If not, there are services out there that can assist you through the whole process: http://www.dotauthority.com/mc.htm#2 Don't know the cost, but you can call them to find out.

    3) So how much do you and your brother have in cash reserves for run your business? I wouldn't start a business without at least 6 months cash. That means take your estimate for your GROSS revenue for what you expect to make for the first 6 months and have that as your cash reserve. Keep in mind that some of your payouts from deliveries won't happen immediately, therefore it is up to you to pay the O/O's out of your pocket until you can recoup the payment for your services. Also, you will need business insurance and vehicle insurance as well. You need to add all of that up and make sure you have at least 6 months (12 would be better).
     
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  7. brandnew

    brandnew Bobtail Member

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    No offense taken. It's all a learning process for me. I realize the odds are against us...but we are going in with 0 debt. We have enough to buy a trailer and my brother owns his truck out right. Obviously we want to start small and make sure we understand exactly what to do and just use 1 trailer with 1 driver. But i think with time it can grow and become something great. Plus if it doesn't work out...i can at least re-coup the money spent on the trailer and re-sell it.
     
  8. brandnew

    brandnew Bobtail Member

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    And no this is not something that we came up with over night. My brother actually works for someone who does this and he owns a bunch of trailers and is very successful. My brother has been in the industry for quite some time and wants to change his role and become the boss of a company that does the same. It's just getting off the ground in terms of paper work and legal things the government need we are curious about.
     
  9. Brownsfan16

    Brownsfan16 Medium Load Member

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    If my idea of buying a brand new truck and becoming either a lease operator or owner operator right out of the gate with zero experience except I have my CDL has been mostly shot down I can't fathom how starting a company from scratch like this would ever net you any money in the beginning.

    If you have tons of money I am sure you can do this! Good luck!
     
  10. brandnew

    brandnew Bobtail Member

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    Surf- isn't there something that takes a cut of your profit to pay you quicker. I believe it is something called "freight factoring". In terms of cash- I was hoping 75k would cover the start up expenses. 30k for the reefer trailer, and the other 40k for the insurance/legal fees/ Gas card for the driver (which will be deducted at the end of his run) Let me know if you think that is enough to cover the start up?
     
  11. 900,000-tons-of-steel

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    Breakdown, towing, maintenance (routine and otherwise) and repair, rent (you DON'T want to do this out of your house), utilities, phones, hi-speed printer, dedicated fax, computer system (a necessity today), software, liability (for your customers on your property), advertising and marketing, listing fees (industry journals and brochures, website and "seeding" fee for visibility generation and search engine optimization), a full-time phone person (not answering the phones but constantly working them, telemarketing for jobs, freight and loads, contacts such as importers and exporters and facilitators, networking, etc.), trade association dues, accountant (a place where many small business fail by incorrectly believing they can do it themselves), surety bond/trust fund, line of credit and other miscellaneous expenses. Got all that? Now add 20 percent as it always costs more than budgeted or figured. Here's a good resource site for an idea of what to expect in the beginning and what it takes to make a successful run at it. Your first year is your most important. Word of mouth can make you or kill you. http://atex.typepad.com/atex/2008/03/freight-broker.html Starting out with limited capital you may want to at least get your foot wet by trying your hand as an agent before becoming a full-fledged broker.
     
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