Water Temp Gauge Problem

Discussion in 'Freightliner Forum' started by Chadwick, Oct 11, 2012.

  1. Chadwick

    Chadwick Light Load Member

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    I got a 1997 Freightliner FLD day cab, 12.7L S60 Detroit. Last few days the water temperature gauge needle will randomly drop and/or spike and just bounce all around, then settle back to normal operating temperature and then properly work. The engine is not actually overheating or cold, this happens during normal operating temp and normal driving. Today it spiked to the red zone on the gauge and set off the check engine, shut down, and water temp warning lights and buzzer on the dash, but only for a few seconds before the needle fell back down.

    Is it the water temp sensor going bad? Or the gauge itself? Is the water temp sensor the one on the top of the block right under the head under the valve cover? or where is it? also, will coolant come spewing out if i take out the sensor to replace it? do i need to drain some?

    I flicked on the jake and noticed it made the gauge do the thing for a little. not sure if it was a coincidence or if they problems are somehow related

    Thanks

    Edit: When the gauge is doing its glitch thing, if it goes up to around 200 (the real temp is still at normal) it will kick on the fan as it is set on auto.
     
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  3. Mommas_money_maker

    Mommas_money_maker Road Train Member

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    Last two times I had issues similar to these (once with a cat c12 and the other time my current ride 12.7 detroit) it was the water pump at fault. Have you been adding coolant lately without knowing where its going to? Have you checked around your water pump for leaking? Anything else you are experiencing or noticing?
     
  4. Chadwick

    Chadwick Light Load Member

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    Thanks for the reply.

    my water pump was leaking real bad, so I bought a new one and replaced it along with all new hoses about a month ago and the truck has been running fine and pump works great since. Engine does have a small head gasket leak that leaks some coolant out on to the block, it's miniscule, I only add like a half gallon of coolant/water once every 3-4 weeks. and that's cuz I want to, not cuz it needs it.

    I also had to replace the oil pressure sensor about two months ago cuz that went out (when i would pop it in to neutral and the psi would fall cuz it goes to idle, the gauge would show it fell more than normal, and would send off the lights and buzzers..very annoying...that's why i kinda think its the water sensor, it sends off the lights and buzzers, and i just replaced a sensor...so maybe its time for this sensor...i mean, the truck is 15 years old, nothing lasts forever.

    also, i used the jake brake all day today and the gauge never did it's thing. so nevermind the possible connection between the two...i think the sensor just may be on it's way of going out? truck ran perfect today and it never did the glitch
     
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  5. Mommas_money_maker

    Mommas_money_maker Road Train Member

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    No problem and yeah it very well could be the sensor. Im not sure if it will dump coolant out if you pull it out or not. I would also look into replacing the rad cap too if you havent already. I just did my water pump 2 weeks ago and made sure to replace the cap and thermostats while I was at it. Maybe should have replaced the sensor too. I am also trying out this additive called water wetter to my 60/40 mix of distilled water/antifreeze and seeing how it works out.
     
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