Got pulled in by D.O.T.

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by heavyhaulerss, Oct 20, 2012.

  1. ShortBusKid

    ShortBusKid Heavy Load Member

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    Some of the stuff they write you for and puts points on your CSA makes no sense. I agree that if it's daylight and you replace the bulb immediately they "should" let it slide but it just seems like it depends on if the officer is in a good mood or not. I had a short in my visor clearance lights and they were out when I pulled onto a scale in NM, I tapped on the visor and they came on and the guy let it go (got it fixed the next day and would not have said a word if he would've written it up). The next week in TX I got CSA points under Fatigued Driving for not having the "from and to" section of the log filled out. I guess my point is it seems like it has less to do with actual safety and more to do with whether the particular officer is in a mood or doesn't like your looks.
     
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  3. mitchtazz

    mitchtazz Road Train Member

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    those little conventions are the exact reason i try to do all of my driving after 2000hrs and before 0800hrs.
     
  4. aiwiron

    aiwiron Road Train Member

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    Letter of the law and spirit of the law used to be a critical part of common sense, unforgettably common sense is a uncommon virtue any more.
     
  5. mitchtazz

    mitchtazz Road Train Member

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    a tire blowing as you're approaching a scale, should have a curve, a tire blowing on the scale, should have a curve, lights blowing in transit after a pretrip, and before it gets dark should have a curve, especially if you can change it on the spot.
     
  6. Autocar

    Autocar Road Train Member

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    Any officer CAN use discretion, but they are not required too. The fact of the matter is, the officer saw a violation. Common sense tells me, that will probably get written up.
     
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  7. mitchtazz

    mitchtazz Road Train Member

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    if a train hits another train in a switching yard, the conductor gets written up, why? because it was avoidable.. a train hits a car on the tracks, nothing is said to the conductor, why? because it wasn't avoidable..

    an exhaust leak on a truck gets written up at the scale house, why? because it should have been spotted during a pretrip.... a blown tail light that's discovered at 11am... should have a curve to it, why? If the driver started at 5am and during his pretrip the light was working, and was working when he turned them off at 8am, how would the driver know that it blew in transit at 9:45am? and the fact that the driver has a replacement should be even more of a reason for it not to get written up.
     
  8. aiwiron

    aiwiron Road Train Member

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    Because it is not about safety, revenue, revenue, revenue.
     
  9. heavyhaulerss

    heavyhaulerss Road Train Member

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    Yes YOU are correct. that is what they tell me. but he knew about my insp 2 weeks prior. I am sure he did or could of looked it up. but to me at that point. the officer can & should use discrection on weather to write the violation. Look I know the law is different for trucks, but can you imagine 4 wheeler driving in daylight with there lights on & a trooper see's there tag light is out & pulls over to mention it to driver, with the driver responding, I have a spare ight & replaces it on the spot & then the officer would say wait here while I write you up even thought it is daytime & not required to be on at this time, but is does need to work ALL THE TIME. that should be at least the consideration. is it daytime? can you correct the defect now? if yes, then why the write up? the law, the law, it is the law. well vagrancy is the law in some states, but what enforcement should be used in such situation. you thinka veteran should be charged with such a violation? I know it is is a totally different topic, but discretion should be used. don't write me up under the circumstances I have described. NOW... if I had a few violations, where the officer knew I did not care, then fine, throw the book at me. bald tires, brakes out of adjustment, log book not current, light's out, no safety equip. then one could see safety is not even a concern. any way I am thru venting. thanks for the oppurtunity to do so.:biggrin_25511:
     
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  10. Autocar

    Autocar Road Train Member

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    Not always. I have been put out of service, for an inspection, with no citation. The inspector even escorted us back to town, to get the repair done, so we didn't have to call out road service.
     
  11. mitchtazz

    mitchtazz Road Train Member

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    and the law should be black and white, not black white and some grey, and the officer the one allowed to hold the crayon.. because then the only thing the determins if you get written up or not is the officers attitude which is really determined by how their day is currently. Which is even worse because if their spouse made a lousy pot of coffee, then a driver somewhere may very well be getting a violation for a marker light that comes on slower then the rest of it's buddies.
     
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