Got pulled in by D.O.T.

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by heavyhaulerss, Oct 20, 2012.

  1. heavyhaulerss

    heavyhaulerss Road Train Member

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    the citation was on the report. when he first asked me if I could fix the light(before he went to his patrol car) my impression was if I can show him the light working before he starts his paperwork he would not give the citation. why he asked me if I could fix it right now if he was going to write the citation anyway? I have been stopped before & had a light out & the officer would not say a thing until he came back with with the report & show me what light was out & would tell me to have it fixed a.s.a.p. this guy, standing with all my documents, ask's can you replace that bulb now. SURE I thought he is giving me a chance to correct a minor violation. NO. one other time at the TN scale s on i 65 I DID have a marker light out. I fixed it then & the officer wrote on report fixed on site. this guy here did not even do that.
     
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  3. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

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    You mention it three times, so I assume you are certain of it being a fact that an enforcement officer has no ability to apply discretion as to whether or not they note a simple, insignificant, violation on an inspection report. I have not kept up on all the U.S. regulations, but is this contained in some documentation somewhere, or is it an assumption on your part? IMO, it is a piss-poor system if that is the case. The scenario presented by the OP is exactly the kind where discretion should be applied, especially seeing as he was able to effect the repair immediately and has a history of compliance and clean inspections.

    When I was running into the U.S. (last run in December 2009) I was leased on with a company that had a very poor record so I got pulled in very often. However, I always had clean inspections so I was usually given the benefit of discretion for inconsequential items like that presented by the OP. It would be a terrible shame if that has actually been legislated out. Or, perhaps it is a reflection on the quality of enforcement officers that, like many new drivers, it is hard to attract and retain high quality people.
     
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  4. heavyhaulerss

    heavyhaulerss Road Train Member

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    I can tell you there have been more than a few lawsuits regarding led light's. when they first started replacing city signal lights, the red/yellow & green. the led's worked well until the snow fell. the leds did not melt the snow like the older type lights, resulting in many major wrecks, with parties involved having their ins co suing the city or state because of defective signals. I do not know the outcome of the cases, but I know they did happen. you can google & find one I am sure. my heat generated lights do melt snow, I see led's that do not. I also see a lot of leds on trailers in the night where not all the little lights are burning & I am sure YOU have too. how long before the d.o.t. start giving violations because ALL your little led's are not lit up? I pay $3.45 a light. tail, stop, turn on back of my trailer. I make sure anti corrosion grease is applied & I tape the elec connctors to the light real good to keep from shaking loose due to vibration, e.t.c.
     
  5. heavyhaulerss

    heavyhaulerss Road Train Member

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    This is exactly my point. the officer asked me how long have I been with my co? I said 2 months. that right there should of told him, if my co has a bad safety record, I am not to blame for the bad record. LOOK at MY record. don't punish me cause my co MAY have a lot of violations. I also told him I have been driving my truck for 13 years & 1.5 million miles. not one accidents. not one oos. not one violation ever than a light out & reflective tape faded in some area, one time for that. my tires get replaced when they have about 6 months left on them. that is just me though.
     
  6. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    I am tossed if I want to put LED on my trailer as they fail, or keep incandescent lights.

    Running snow plow last year, biggest issues we had with LED lights is them being blocked out by the snow. As was said, they won't melt the snow. No heat coming off them.

    I really don't want to be nailed by DOT for snow covered lights.

    I REALLY don't want to be rear ended because of snow covered lights either.
     
  7. heavyhaulerss

    heavyhaulerss Road Train Member

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    just pull over every 40 miles & check/ clean lights as needed.:yes2557: that is very good reasons why I have my ole type. I will say this. if my equip came with them on I would probably replace with like kind.
     
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  8. slowpoke89

    slowpoke89 Road Train Member

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    The bad thing about LED's is the #######s that feel they can help themselves to them off of another driver's trailer.
     
  9. dude6710

    dude6710 Road Train Member

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    I got a level 1 with a violation for a clearance marker light out that was working during inspection
     
  10. cadillacdude1975

    cadillacdude1975 Road Train Member

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    if i ever see that the ABS light on a trailer i am pulling is illuminated, i get my pocketknife out and cut the power wire to make the light not work. my runs are made at night with AM deliveries, so i can either sit and refuse the run and get in trouble, or cut the power to the light and go on about my business and take care of it when i return. all the light means is that the antilock feature is inoperative, and it (the lit ABS light) is not an OOS violation. so why advertise?
     
  11. CondoCruiser

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    There sure is, 393.55, the keywords the system must be operative...

    Non working ABS doesn't meet it.

    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=393.55&keyword=trailer%20abs

    and if you cut the wire 393.11 gets you! :)

    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regu...rruletext.aspx?reg=393.11&keyword=trailer abs
     
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