Why CSA 2010 and E-Logs are a good thing.

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Theophilus, Nov 6, 2011.

  1. shredfit1

    shredfit1 Road Train Member

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    Just how far are you willing to go the the micromanagement influence on behavior... Will you now make a mandate that all Meltom drivers are ONLY allowed 2 pee bottles in the truck at any given time... Enforced by a sensor tied to the bottle holder... that could transmit the data via EOBR's. Supplemented with a camera focused on that pee bottles at all times.

    Not only is your baby sitting job silly to most veterans.. it's a huge waste of revenue.
     
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  3. EZX1100

    EZX1100 Road Train Member

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    its not just veterans

    its human beings

    they are beginning to treat humans like a factory machine, tweaking this, tuning that, to maximize work and profit (and reduce risk of course)

    they dont see what they are doing, they are too caught up in their technology and knowledge to see how they are reducing a person into a commodity, a plaything not much different than we would condemn russia, nazi germany or china for, we are leading and accepting such things as a GOOD thing
     
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  4. newly crusin

    newly crusin Medium Load Member

    ..the above 3 those company's ..I never haul for them and probably never will....
    ...agree that they are bottom feeders...

    EOBR's came about so Big Trucking could be less liable if the drivers were involved in ANY TYPE of accident...
    ....period...not to be paperless...not to be more productive...

    ...mainly so that Big Trucking could be less liable in court.....Period....IMO
    ....BECAUSE big trucking IS MISMANAGED AND DISORGANIZED...

    Big Trucking then forced them on us all...
    by convincing their politicians with whom they have in their pockets
    to push it thru the bill( if someone has time,please post the bill here...the wording for the EOBR's is squeezed in at the bottom)

    ....let "Big Trucking" keep em...
    so they can play on their "level playing field"( as some ATA member stated in the past..)...

    ...the EOBR'S should not be forced on the O/O...
    (Big Trucking purposely did this also, to financially hurt the small trucking company...IMO....)

    crusin
     
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  5. texan007

    texan007 Medium Load Member

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    Sadly, socialist have no worry, concern or care about facts or the condition of man they live only for the group!

    They have their little useful idiots trained so that when they pluck the strings they play.......

    Play, play, play little puppets for one day they will even devour YOU!
     
  6. Cowpie1

    Cowpie1 Road Train Member

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    I would agree, to some extent, that liability was a deciding factor for some going to Elogs, but document management was in the top 2 reasons also. Obviously, for a single truck operation or very small carrier, the savings in man hours managing logs may not justify costs of going to elogs, but when you get into 100 or more trucks, it can make a difference. Having all the logs done electronically, not having to waste time filing and storing logs, not being able to read the chicken scratchin' that some put on logs, etc can save quite a bit of time you could have someone in an office doing better things.

    This whole elog thing was never about safety. Never has been. Maybe that was an argument being used by government hacks and groups to push for them, but for the carriers it was primarily cost savings, accountability, and legal. It does beg the question though, why there are several carriers that feel compelled to push this on everyone else. That part I have never heard a good reason for. Just because it works well for one, does not mean it has to be shoved down the throat of everyone else. I see advantages to elogs, I also see problems. I use one, I like it, I don't want to go back to paper. But I have no desire, and am against, making everyone else use elogs.
     
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  7. Autocar

    Autocar Road Train Member

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    That has been a component of business, since the begining of time. Maximize profit, minimize costs. Do you really think all those jobs went to Mexico and China? If you do, you are a fool. Look at today's factory floor and compare it to the same factory floor of 20 years ago. More multi-purpose machines and less people, to run those machines.
    Trucking is no different, it is a business. Higher efficiency means lower costs and higher production, equating to higher profits. Paper logs are a dinosaur.
     
  8. Meltom

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    I'd prefer no pee bottle in the truck ever.
     
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  9. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    Ummm, yep. Sure thing.
     
  10. aiwiron

    aiwiron Road Train Member

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    No one has any proof of the recorders increasing productivity, or safety to be honest. Just a recording device tethered to the truck.
     
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  11. EZX1100

    EZX1100 Road Train Member

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    my personal opinion is that its about compliance, whatever method is available, teaching people (in general) to be compliant to authority,, no matter what authority demands of them, it sets folks up for all types of tyranny, truck drivers are just the easiest guinea pigs

    dont forget, the internet was supposed to be for truckers and monitoring
     
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