Missing a gear

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by O.Henry, Nov 11, 2012.

  1. O.Henry

    O.Henry Road Train Member

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    I am interested in learning what to do when I miss a gear.I am trained to shift to the MPH,not RPM's,and when I miss a gear,I am lost.Eventually after a long GRIIIIND.my instructor reaches over and BANGS into a gear.I realize that when I pass my test at DPS it will all be easier,but now there is a lot of pressure with all I have to learn.I seem to have a problem going from 5th to 6th.I end up in 8th.
     
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  3. marlinmike

    marlinmike Bobtail Member

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    Straight 10 speed after flipping the range and taking out of 5th pull it all the way to you till it won't go any farther, and then down. If you're not pulling against the spring, you'll end up in 8th.
     
  4. marlinmike

    marlinmike Bobtail Member

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    Upshifts want to be around 1500-1700 rpm, down at 1100 if you get much lower than that you'll want to skip that gear and take the next i.e. 8 to 6...skip 7
     
  5. wanderingson

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    Sounds like your instructor isnt very good. Shifting and backing are among the hardest things to learn when starting out. Are they teaching you to double clutch? I never believed in that, and its un-necessary in my opinion.

    If you miss a gear while upshifting, try the next lowest gear from what you were attempting to shift into. Usually works, but RPM and your road speed will dictate what gear will let you in. If your speed has fallen much, usually 2 gears lower will get you in.

    Its all about RPM and road speed. I cant believe they teaching you to shift by MPH. After awhile, it will come naturally to you, Takes practice. You may even learn how to "float" gears which means shifting without the clutch. Many experienced drivers do this. Once you learn rpm and road speed, shifting will get easy.
     
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  6. Honch

    Honch Light Load Member

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    For a rookie, shifting up and down takes practice.
    Eventually you'll just hear the engine / watch the road going by and do what needs to be done. I remember my first couple days of mentor training and sometimes I couldn't figure out what gear was proper, and he'd reach over and slam the stick into one.

    Once you get your own truck and get to "know" it, you'll get into the groove quickly.
     
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  7. sherlock510

    sherlock510 Road Train Member

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    Sounds like a lot of new people starting out.
    Practice is as easy as i can put it.
     
  8. okiedokie

    okiedokie Road Train Member

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    RPM is the key to a smooth driver. 200rpm for the upshift & 500 for a full gear. Floating gears is not the sign of a vet driver.
    Applying the right skill for the right task is. You can not float gears from a stop loaded on a 12% grade. It is the wrong application. It takes a different skill set. Only miles will teach u. Don't be arrogant and think u know it all in 20-30 years
    There's always a new trick to learn from another driver.
     
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  9. GasHauler

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    That's it right there. Knowing what gear to be in at any given time. During our road test we would want the driver to show us how to skip gears and not use all the gears when not needed. My company however only hired drivers with many years experience because of what we did so we expected them to know. So if you coming off the interstate and slowing down we would not want you to go down using all the gears like you would in a car. You can slow down from your top gear ( 10 speed) go into a lower gear then stop. Or on a surface street coming up to a red light and the light turns green you select the gear for your speed and go. The most important factor is to be relaxed and not bang any gears. If you missed a gear know why then select the proper gear. You're either going too fast or too slow for the gear. It takes time but you'll get it if you don't pick up some bad habits like your trainer has.
     
  10. chompi

    chompi Road Train Member

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    Memorize your gears matched with your speeds. 1st gear through 4th gear are all parking lot speeds and gears in which you start out in. 4th and 5th gear are generally for taking slower turns and corners. 6th gear for faster turns. 7th gear for speeds up to 35-40. 8th gear for 40-50mph. 9th gear will take you to about 55-60 and 10th gear is basically your overdrive gear. The higher the speed you are going in a particular gear the more you will have to rev the rpms to drop down a gear. If you are at the lower end of the gear you won't have to rev up the rpms that much. Its always easier to downshift when you are going at the slower speed of your current gear.

    Hope this makes sense.
     
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  11. PackRatTDI

    PackRatTDI Licensed to Ill

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    I knew a guy who said his trucks 10 speed was missing a gear but after fighting it and having a lot of grinding, he found it. Too bad it was actually a 9 speed.
     
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