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Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by PeteSalesGuy, Sep 21, 2012.

  1. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

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    Not sure where you're getting that info, but I believe it is not correct.
     
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  3. dwmac71

    dwmac71 Light Load Member

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    A Canadian trucking mag had large wright up on it last summer. They got their data from the transport ministry.
    From a today's trucking story

    http://www.todaystrucking.com/natural-gas-savings-dependent-on-taxes

    With the cost of installing a natural gas engine estimated at $80,000 per vehicle, the switch is a no-brainer, the Board said in a press release

    "Nearly half of the estimated savings from natural gas vehicles are in the form of fuel tax savings, as natural gas is currently exempt from the equivalent of a road diesel excise tax,"

    and when the tax goes back on?
     
  4. PeteSalesGuy

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    The cost will go up. Howver the "$80,000 per vehicle" is for a changeover from diesel to NG. An ordered NG truck has a much lower cost difference.
     
  5. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

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    Sorry, I was commenting specifically on your reference to changes in the wheelbase dimensions and reasoning for same. AFAIK, there have been no changes.
     
  6. Sarabeara

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    I picked up a 389 last weekend, my dealer told me Peterbilt will be saying no to glider kits in the near future.
    Have you heard this?
     
  7. Down under trucker

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    Boral, the company I contract to had 8 CNG powered Mack's in the plant I work from. They had cummins islg Westport engines. It was one of the biggest mistakes the company ever made. Endless brake downs, the things spent more time not running than they did running. Everyday there was at least 1 or 2 down and trust me i worked with these trucks I'm not lying. Plus the fact they had to fill up about 4-5 times a day versus once every 1 to 2 days for a diesel truck. They ended up giving, yes giving them away just cut there losses.
    I have herd that they have had some success with them if they are carrying a load of CNG and they can scavenge the fuel off the load they are carrying.

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    You can see the "box" behind the cab which housed 3 large tanks and they had another reserve tank aswell. Boral had to put a CNG station in the plant for them.
     
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  8. Cowpie1

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    Anything is possible, I guess. But it would seem idiotic. Even Kenworth, another Paccar outfit like Pete, jumped into the glider game this year. Unless Paccar determined that since they are doing gliders at KW, then go ahead an shut down Pete gliders. Lot's of rumors on these issues. One dealer's opinion really doesn't mean anything more than one driver's opinion. Have to go to the source and find out.
     
  9. Gunz444

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    sorry double post
     
  10. Gunz444

    Gunz444 Light Load Member

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    I was just wondering about just how cost effective CNG or NG would be if there was a distribution system like the on that gets the gas to your water heater? Would it be possible to deliver CNG or NG to the refueling centers with pipes and pipe lines the same way that it gets to your house and your water heater right now? Maybe this is something we are not considering as a real advantage to CNG or NG which could more than make up for its lower BTU rating wne it comes to actually distributing it. Just a thought from an idiot.
     
  11. PeteSalesGuy

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    For most refeuling stations, that IS how the gas get to the station. It must then be compressed or chilled dependant upon LNG/CNG useage. The cost is the compressor and storage tanks and they are NOT cheap but are coming down with new technology and economies of scale.
     
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