Cat C15 clogginf fuel filters

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Scoopyex, Nov 21, 2012.

  1. Scoopyex

    Scoopyex Bobtail Member

    4
    1
    Jan 4, 2012
    Manchester, NH
    0
    I have a 2006 Pete 389 with a c15 in it. when I came to work for this shop they told me about the problem. I finally cut upen the primary and separators and found a black oily looking/feeling fim coating the filter matter. this truck has had chronic hard starting issues as well. I removed the tanks and had them cleaned, and removed the lines to the engine and cleaned them out as well, and since doing this 2000 or so miles ago, the truck returned to the shop with the same oily/black slick on the filter matter inside of the filters. We have also been treating the fuel with bioshock because Cat told us it was an algea problem.

    Any help greatly appreciated.

    thank you and happy TG!
     
  2. Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  3. bubbanbrenda

    bubbanbrenda Road Train Member

    1,388
    650
    Feb 27, 2011
    Middletown,Oh.
    0
    Sounds like algea in the fuel tanks, standard cleaning probably wont kill it, use "Bio-Medic" you can get it a Pilot or T/A,most big truck stops carry it,its usually near the Howes and Power Service,get 3 or 4 fuel filters too. when it dies it clogs your filters pretty bad.
     
    SHC Thanks this.
  4. EHB

    EHB Medium Load Member

    491
    209
    Apr 26, 2011
    Newfoundland
    0

    Where are you getting your fuel from.... algea problem again in 2000 or so miles ago

    and same oily/black slick on the filter matter inside of the filters sounds a bit strange to me, if the tanks and lines were cleaned out correctly.

    Is that black oily looking/feeling film coating the filter matter.... like engine oil or a sandy texture like sugar?
     
  5. SHO-TYME

    SHO-TYME Road Train Member

    3,425
    3,179
    Apr 20, 2011
    Dahlonega, GA
    0
    If you clean the tanks but go back to the same fuel stops, you just wasted the money you spent cleaning the tanks.
     
    SHC Thanks this.
  6. SHC

    SHC Spoiled Rotten Brat O/O

    8,484
    7,046
    Feb 26, 2011
    Westville, IN
    0
    Yeah, it sounds like Algea for sure. Does your company have in-house fuel pumps? It sounds to me like it may be the facitily your buying fuel from that is the problem. As stated above, get some bio-medic (which kills algea) and it will take maybe 2 doses to get it done. There could have been just a small amount left in the return line or somewhere in the head for it to infect the fuel system again. It spreads like a rabid dog....

    And find a new place to fuel for sure.
     
  7. bubbanbrenda

    bubbanbrenda Road Train Member

    1,388
    650
    Feb 27, 2011
    Middletown,Oh.
    0
    The OP said "I removed the tanks and had them cleaned, and removed the lines to the engine and cleaned them out as well". IF the people he "had clean them out" used a Bio-cide it did absolutely nothing for the filter housings fuel pump injectors ect. In order to kill it all you must treat it in the fuel on the truck to guarantee you get the Bio-cide every where the fuel goes.I am famous in my house for over kill, so if I were in the OP's shoes I would get enough Bio-Medic and filters to do it twice, and then do it twice (because if you dont get it all the 1st time your going to do it twice anyway)
     
    SHC Thanks this.
  8. Scoopyex

    Scoopyex Bobtail Member

    4
    1
    Jan 4, 2012
    Manchester, NH
    0
    to me it seemed like engine oil. I ran the tip of my finger through the filter element and came out with enough of it on my finger to coat something the size of a ritz cracker.
     
  9. Scoopyex

    Scoopyex Bobtail Member

    4
    1
    Jan 4, 2012
    Manchester, NH
    0
    I appreciate all of the replies. I left out a few particulars during the original post. I have about a dozen trucks in my fleet, IH, Petes, and one FL and a few straight trucks. this is the only truck with a problem, so I can only assume he got a dose of bad fuel at some random fuel stop. I removed the hand primer a couple of weeks ago because during it's ritual morning no start, the primer has gotten worn out/damaged. It was so bad that it wouldn't seat down inside of the bore. When I removed the primer, I was immediately taken by the fact that it was all black inside, so that's when I decided to open up filters and take a peek. I also felt around the inside of the fuel tank looking for a slick that I have found in the past on a lot of Detroit powered trucks.. none! That's why initially I was in debate over the cause of the filter sludge. Cat was called about the issue and they said it can't be oil and was probably contaminated fuel. I'm guessing whatever is contaminating the fuel could also be the reason why the truck doesn't start after it's been sitting a while I suspect the bleeder valve in the primary housing to be the problem. In all of my years dealing with C15's this is only the second time I've had one having no start problems and the first time turned out to be that little valve bleeding off.

    Thanks Gents! Hope your holiday was great!
     
    SHC Thanks this.
  • Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.