logbook recap

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Louisvilleguy, Nov 27, 2012.

  1. Louisvilleguy

    Louisvilleguy Bobtail Member

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    I know for a fact that you do not have to run a recap on your logbook and there isn't any local/state laws in Elizabethtown, KY saying you have to run a recap on your logbook, however vehicle enforcement (DOT) is writing warnings for missing entry on logbook and giving the driver a CSA sheet to send to the company according to a terminal manager I know, who works for a different company than me. According to him and the owner they are going to make drivers fill out recaps in order to "comply" which is B.S... I told him if they are writing tickets for something that isn't illegal and they fix the problem, they will write tickets for something else.. My question is, How does one combat this, both at a company and driver level?
     
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  3. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    Do a recap daily, or keep a running recap at the back of the book and draw a line through the recap section on each page. Trying to buck the system over piddly stuff is an exercise in futility. Every job has rules and job performance expectations. Some from the company, some from the regulatory and law enforcement agencies, some from both.
     
  4. Dinomite

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    If the recap is on your log. You better fill it out. How in the world are you suppose to know how much time you have, and why should the dot officer have to do your job for you. Should of gave them a ticket and buried them under the jail. :)
     
  5. Scalemaster

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    Look on the inspection report, in the column headed Violation Code. Every DOT inspection shows the regulation code you are supposed to be in violation of. Look that code up in the regs, and see exactly what they say you have violated.

    You are correct, there is not requirement in Federal regulation on recaps.

    I wonder what they have you down as violating?
     
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  6. BigMac601

    BigMac601 Bobtail Member

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    I got wrote up n mississippi for the same thing. I think some of the officers are just as confused.
     
  7. Trucail

    Trucail Medium Load Member

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    It's your responsibility to know your hours. So, why not do the recap? I always had one. Of course now we're on elogs so I don't have to worry about it. Yes I was a sceptic too, but after being on them for the last year, not any more! Run better and harder than ever.
     
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  8. Louisvilleguy

    Louisvilleguy Bobtail Member

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    First of all, there is no law requiring a recap. Second, I never run out of hours and either does anyone at the other company that my friend manages. It's like I said, if you cave in to this, they will find something else to make up. I was Hoping someone that owns a trucking company or another driver who has ran into this could give me some idea of what to do about this... Just because there's a spot for it on some of the log book doesn't mean it has to be filled out. This is a hit and run by dot. Anyone know how much federal money they get for writing phony tickets?
     
  9. Dinomite

    Dinomite Road Train Member

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    Your log book must be complete. If there is a space for it. Fill it out dude. Not that hard.

    (7) Signature/certification. The driver shall certify to the correctness of all entries by signing the form containing the driver's duty status record with his/her legal name or name of record. The driver's signature certifies that all entries required by this section made by the driver are true and correct.(8) Time base to be used. (i) The driver's duty status record shall be prepared, maintained, and submitted using the time standard in effect at the driver's home terminal, for a 24-hour period beginning with the time specified by the motor carrier for that driver's home terminal.(ii) The term "7 or 8 consecutive days" means the 7 or 8 consecutive 24-hour periods as designated by the carrier for the driver's home terminal

     
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  11. Trucail

    Trucail Medium Load Member

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    Well even if there wasn't a law for it, doesn't mean you shouldn't do it. Its simply good practice. More organized means more productivity, and less problems. It's the people who only do the bare minimum that struggle the most!

    But it is the law. If it's a spot on your logs, it must be filled in!
     
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