cat head bolts

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  1. little cat 500

    little cat 500 Road Train Member

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    6nz cat motor has been rebuilt block was decked new head blew head gasket at 50000 to back to shop they said head was wavy so the cut the head 20000 miles blows headgasket again liners are at .004 could the head bolts be the problem or do i just have a lemon
     
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  3. CatPowerC15

    CatPowerC15 Medium Load Member

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    .004 is on the low side of spec. Could be anything. Stretched bolts, holes not cleaned out. There were some 6NZs that left with the holes not drilled deep enough. Improper torque....many things
     
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  4. bubbanbrenda

    bubbanbrenda Road Train Member

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    They cut the deck and the head(raising compression)? Did they cut the counter-bores? Did you SEE the .004 on every hole or is that what you were told? Not looking for an argument, or pointing any fingers I'm just saying that most(not all) head gasket problems can be traced back to a liner or installation problem. Did they use the old headbolts when they rebuilt it?
     
  5. CatPowerC15

    CatPowerC15 Medium Load Member

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    What he said.....I would verify if they counterbored or not and prove protrusion measurements. Cat bolts don't usually stretch unless pitted. I've never replaced head bolts and never had issues but anythings possible.
     
  6. Shade Tree

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    Almosdt everytime when a head gasket blows repeatedly it is because the liner protrusion is not even all around the cylinder and the protrusion of the liner next to it is too high. You should have around .006 liner protrusion and no more than.0005 from side to side on each liner with no more than .001 difference across all liners. There is a thicker head gasket that you can order but that has to be taken into consideration when cutting the deck. Head bolt holes that haven't been wire brushed out will also effect the torque. If they didn't use cat head bolt lubricant then the torque won't be sufficient.
     
  7. little cat 500

    little cat 500 Road Train Member

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    ok the .004 is what i was told by the shop and its a darn good shop here in pa they say the liner are all the same height head bolts are orignal to the motor so they have over 1000000 miles on them shop that did the work said the lubed the bolt and washers with some cat lube for the job and was told that they clean bolt holes and at .004 can i get away with the thinner spacer plate and the thicker head gasket maybe
     
  8. CatPowerC15

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    IIRC the thinner plate is .003 thinner, making you .007 protrusion which will crack a liner flange.
     
  9. little cat 500

    little cat 500 Road Train Member

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    yea i know id be at .007 the .004 is kinda bad # to be at
     
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