Charging electric apu batteries with generator?

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  1. creamy_filling102

    creamy_filling102 Bobtail Member

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    I've been driving locally a couple years and have decided to get out into OTR. The company i'll be starting with (roehl) i've been told a lot of their trucks have those apu's powered by 4 deep cycle golf cart batteries that runs an air conditioner for 10 hours (supposedly) while your're taking your 10 hour break overnight. I know there are a few different systems on the market, but for the sake of the thread, let's just call it ClimaCab. Now the problem with these, as i'm sure you all know, is when you hit your 34 restart, your batteries will be dead and you'll be SOL for the remaining 20 or 30 hours. You could start the truck and idle to recharge them, but with all the 5 minute shut-offs they have now-a-days, that probably won't work too well. not to mention you have to idle the truck for a good 8 or more hours to recharge them, which takes a lot of fuel and i'm sure will be subject to a good scolding from the company.

    So my question is this: Are these ClimaCab batteries wired into the same charging circuit as your starting batteries, or does the alternator have a seperate regulator for the two? I know deep cycle batteries usually require a little diferent charging procedures than their starter battery counterparts, but who knows. If all the batteries are wired into the same circuit, then after 10 hours of cooling and your climacab batteries are dead, you should be able to turn the truck's key to the ON possition (with the engine not running of course) and your starter batteries should be able to charge up the climacab batteries. If i spent a couple hundred bucks on a little 1000 watt generator, i could use that to charge up the starter batteries, which in turn would be sent to the climacab batteries via the already existing wiring. Does anybody know if that would work?

    An easier approach would be to just hook the generator (along with a battery charger which i already have) right up to the climacab batteries, but i'm not sure if they're all closed up and i can even get to them. If the two battery systems are wired into seperate charging systems, then the only other way to charge them would be from the alternator with the engine idling, which as i stated before, probably isn't going to work. Does anybody have any experience with these types of battery pack apu's that can answer this?
     
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  3. Semi Crazy

    Semi Crazy Road Train Member

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    Why not burn the company fuel to charge the company batteries instead of spending money on a generator?

    You are are one dedicated company man!
     
  4. creamy_filling102

    creamy_filling102 Bobtail Member

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    as i said in the original post, if the trucks weren't rigged to not idle more than 5 minutes without having to run up and push the clutch all the time, then i'd idle.
     
  5. MsJamie

    MsJamie Road Train Member

    A lot of the EPU equipped trucks have a "shore power" plug. This is intended to be plugged into regular 110V ("shore") power. This would be the appropriate place to connect the generator.

    You'll need to find what current this connection needs, and make sure the generator is sized appropriately.
     
  6. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    dno't the apu's have a alternator also???? that charges the batteries it uses??? or the truck batteries for that matter.

    you don't need a generator to do something the apu is already equipped to do. and you don't need to run the truck.

    the apu does everything you need it to do.
     
  7. Beer Runner

    Beer Runner Medium Load Member

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    When I was with Bison my truck had a parksmart system in it. The same one your talking about. We all complained but they kept the #### thing anyway. Yes you will kill the batteries, but you will still be able to start the truck. What happens is that just before you kill ALL the batteries you will notice that nothing in the cab works anymore, and it will beep at you until you start the truck. Another thing if it's to cold out the thing can't keep up, the same goes when it's to hot out. The only way around all this is to run the motor when it to cold or hot, or in a reset. An APU does a much better job then this pile of dung ever could. What a waste of money, but the office people just don't get it.
     
  8. creamy_filling102

    creamy_filling102 Bobtail Member

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    ahh yes. shore power. that would make it pretty easy. i wasn't sure if they had something like that or not. hopefully whatever system i end up with does.
     
  9. Beer Runner

    Beer Runner Medium Load Member

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    Good luck finding this. Only a hand full of spots have it.
     
  10. MsJamie

    MsJamie Road Train Member

    He's looking to connect his truck to a generator, not a plug in at a truck stop.

    I did a bit more research regarding this subject. It seems that a lot of the higher amperage chargers don't "like" the cheaper generators. My guess is that since the cheaper generators aren't voltage regulated, their voltage sags under load to below what the charger needs for full power. The result is that a 50A charger only delivers 20A on the generator.
     
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