Option to Trade bio monitoring for more driving hours?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by The Progressive, Jan 3, 2013.

  1. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

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    Hyper-miler = Idiots of the highway. These are the same guys that think drafting semis is a good idea... all in the name of being "green".
     
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  3. dibstr

    dibstr Road Train Member

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    Well it's the rest opportunity prescribed by the Regs.


    Actually it was a typing mistake not a math mistake, I typed 10 hrs driving and meant 11. Regardless of which it was my 14 hr statement is correct (less any on duty time). The 14 hr statement is still correct even using the 10 hours I mistakenly used. a point you cannot seem to grasp. Does this mean you failed the regulation test?

    Again, not grasping a point? The point is that the opportunity for rest can be and is set by regulation, but no amount of regulation can make a body either need rest or get rest.

    You can and will believe what you want. Get your license, get a job and go out ad do it. Oh and BTW, put your warning devices out if you are on the shoulder longer than 10 minutes (Darn more time spent).

    Shoulders are dangerous. A quote from the nhtsa: "Parking on the shoulder of controlled access or other roadways by CMV drivers can be a significant contributing factor to injury or fatal crashes, although the main reason CMVs are parked on highway shoulders and other unsafe locations is mechanical breakdown."
    I have a paper copy, but I am certain you can research their website.
    Or if you prefer:
    Commercial Motor Vehicle Traffic Enforcement Guide

    DOT HS 809 422
    July 2002

    This guide is for law enforcement agencies to develop traffic safety programs to address serious moving violations committed by drivers of Commercial Motor Vehicles.

    Published by:
    U.S. Department of Transportation
    Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration
    National Highway Traffic Safety Administration

    (Excerpt from the guide below):

    Parking on the shoulder

    Parking on the shoulder of controlled access or other roadways by CMV drivers can be a significant contributing factor to injury or fatal crashes. The main reason CMVs are parked on highway shoulders and other unsafe locations is mechanical breakdown. However, drivers are often in need of rest, particularly in the early morning hours, and may not know the locations of nearby rest areas or truck stops. Also, deliveries scheduled for early morning often cause a driver to park at the city limits or near the delivery point to wait for the delivery location to open.

    Many crashes involve vehicles striking trucks parked on the shoulder. Studies indicate that CMVs were involved in the major portion of these crashes and that they occurred primarily between midnight and 6 a.m. Alcohol involvement or fatigue were the two main causes noted.

    Officers should be aware of the potential for serious crashes associated with CMVs parking on highway shoulders. Providing assistance for disabled vehicles and informing drivers of safe parking areas will contribute to a reduction of CMV crashes.


    Do you think privacy only affects drivers that are having sex? That's what one can surmise from what you have stated.
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  4. dibstr

    dibstr Road Train Member

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    You are just playing with us aren't you?

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  5. The Progressive

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    Everyone that has a part in these 'studies' and the rulemaking should be required to spend 6 months in different trucks, one week at a time. Food service, LTL local P&D, Line haul, oil field, OTR, fuel hauling, liquid bulk hazmat, intermodal, the list goes on...

    It really seems that nobody writing the HOS rules actually understands the diversity and real world demands of the industry.[/QUOTE]

    The regulations are the product of studies by by government and university researchers, with input from the union, company management/ owners, and truck drivers.
     
  6. The Progressive

    The Progressive Bobtail Member

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    No. You were just playing with me when you included "get motivated" in your itemization of parts of taking a break, weren't you? You never did say how long this takes and what it entails. Is it looking at pictures of the new car or boat you want to buy, or thinking about getting the hemorrhoidectomy you need when you can afford to take off?
     
  7. dibstr

    dibstr Road Train Member

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    No, actually I was referring to how long it takes after waking from a short nap for your mind and body to be 100% functional. I know of no one who just wakes up and goes. Some have a cup of coffee to help, some like to read for a few minutes, and some just like a little quiet time to organize their thoughts etc.

    Now, now, let's not get testy when you cannot have your way with others. Lets learn to play nice.

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  8. dibstr

    dibstr Road Train Member

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    That's not very accurate. It would be more accurate to state that the regulations are the product of a regulatory process which is influenced by many factors including those you mentioned above, as well as others which have nothing to do with the trucking industry (For instance the general public can comment during the comment phase), and some of which are political in nature.

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